Loonwatch Has Been Warning about an Anders Behring Breivik for Years

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Posted on 25 July 2011 by Garibaldi
Robert Spencer and his biggest fan: Anders Behring Breivik

Robert Spencer and his biggest fan: Anders Behring Breivik

Anders Behring Breivik is by all accounts an intelligent individual, wealthy and from a privileged background. He believes Europe is under assault, that it is being colonized by the hordes of the evil “green” menace known as ‘Islam’ and that Europe’s leaders are responsible for the onslaught. He believes this despite the fact that there are no Muslim Armies occupying ANY European nation, there are no Muslim Armies that have set up bases in ANY European nation.
How did he come to the irrational conclusion that his very way of life was under imminent threat?
His inspiration can be gleaned from the words of his manifesto, 2083: A European Declaration of Independence. In his own words he was inspired by Andrew Bostom, Robert Spencer, Bat Ye’or, Pamela Geller, Geert Wilders, Ibn Warraq, Serge Trifkovic, the so-called “Vienna School” and a plethora of other Islamophobes and anti-Muslims.
LoonWatch since its inception has been warning about the ever increasing radicalization of the anti-Muslim Movement, its trans-atlantic nature, as well as the eventuality of violence. We documented numerous instances of “inciting violence,” both in the speech of the leading Islamophobes as well as in the conduct and speech of their followers.
One only needs to look at our piece on Pamela Geller, “The Looniest Blogger Ever,” in which Geller engages in all of the well worn conspiracies that we are used to and which Breivik shared, as well as her pronouncements of genocide against Muslims and the “political elites” who enable them.
Robert Spencer’s influence on Breivik’s ideas about Islam, Muslims and the West seems to be greater than anyone else. He cites Spencer numerous times (64) in his manifesto, always glowingly, for instance he writes on p. 754,

About Islam I recommend essentially everything written by Robert Spencer. Bat Ye’or’s books are groundbreaking and important, though admittedly not always easy to read. The Legacy of Jihad by Andrew Bostom should be considered required reading for all those interested in Islam. It is the best and most complete book available on the subject in English, and possibly in any language. Ibn Warraq’s books are excellent, starting with his Defending the West . Understanding Muhammad by the Iranian ex-Muslim Ali Sina is also worth reading, as is Defeating Jihad by Serge Trifkovic.

Like Spencer, Breivik believes in waging a Crusade against Muslims. Spencer declared in his book The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades), “God Wills it!,” that was the battle cry of the Crusaders. There is more in Danios’ series rebutting The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades).
We have been trying to prevent the grisly terrorist attacks that rocked Norway by making people aware of the serious threat from radicals who in the guise of freedom and under the mantle of liberty wish to impose their truly destructive, exclusivist ideology upon the masses.
However, our protestations were generally unheeded. It resulted in the Beslan of Norway and now we have a manifesto from a killer inspired by the extremists who we have been exposing for years. Anders Behring Breivik is the polo sweater wearing anti-Muslim Right-wing nationalist Crusader icon of Islamophobes worldwide, he is their Che Guevara and he will inspire more copycats in his wake.

59 Comments For This Post

  1. Chris Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 1:57 pm You’re absolutely right. What Spencer is running over at Jihad Watch is nothing other than a cult, and an extremely dangerous one at that. As I am sure you are aware, if one tries to say anything that even slightly demurs from The Spencer Doctrine in the comments section of Jihad Watch one is immediately accused of being motivated by the forces of evil, being a debauched enemy of “Judeo-Christian civilization”, and suspected of being either a savage “koranimal”/ “mudslime” / “Mahound” pushing sharia under the cloak of “taqiyya”, or else an equally despicable “leftard” in cahoots with jihadists.
    This kind of hysterical paranoia and irrational hatred has been fomenting in the comments sections of Jihad Watch (and similar sites, such as Geller’s Atlas Shrugs) for years now, where all Muslims and the entire political left are regularly demonised and dehumanised in the most appalling fashion. This hatred and paranoia regularly reaches fever pitch, with calls for the mass deportation of all Muslims, and calls for violence against both Muslims and leftists often being openly expressed.
    While Spencer is quick to point out that he does not himself openly advocate violence (unless it is carried out by Western or Israeli governments against Muslims, of course), there is no doubt that his books and website incite extreme pro-Christian/pro-conservative fanaticism and irrational hatred of both Muslims and anyone with left-wing leanings – and irrationality and hatred, especially when incited by fear-mongering propaganda, soon beget violence.
    Spencer himself has many times argued that the “most determined and implacable enemies” of what he calls “Judeo-Christian civilisation” are not the jihadists but rather those on the left who “facilitate” the “Islamisation of the West” via their pernicious doctrine of multiculturalism and their supposed hatred of “Judeo-Christian values”. According to Spencer, there is a leftist/jihadist conspiracy to destroy the “Judeo-Christian civilisation” of the West, and what is needed is a Christian/conservative “Crusade” against such “traitors”. Indeed, Spencer has published reams of material attempting to justify the Crusades as having been absolutely necessary for the preservation of Christendom, and this material by Spencer is reproduced at great length in Breivik’s manifesto.
    Spencer would have us all believe that we are now living in a time markedly similar to that of the original Crusades, and that just as the latter were necessary to defend Judaeo-Christian civilisation from the Muslim hordes, so now it is imperative to start a “new Crusade” for precisely the same reason. As you point out, one of Spencer’s best-selling books even has the words “DEUS VULT!” (the war-cry of the original Crusaders) as its epigraph. Spencer also regularly states that we are all “at war with Islam”, and that anyone who disagrees is ipso facto a “dhimmi” and a “traitor”.
    Is it really surprising, in view of all this, that one of Spencer’s many fanatical followers would go one step further, setting up an elaborate neo-Crusader cult (hundreds of pages are devoted to this in Breivik’s manifesto), fantasising about himself as a modern-day “Knight Templar” who will one day be revered as a Saint for his courage, and then and go out shooting the people whom the likes of Spencer have singled out as “the most determined and implacable enemy” of “Judeo-Christian civilisation”?
  2. mp11 Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 2:02 pm Somebody should add “I tried to tell you” as a subtitle…
    btw anyone notice hugh fitzgerald is also referenced in the manifesto?
  3. Webdawah Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 2:04 pm You guys are doing a great job here on LoonWatch. You are the people we had been waiting for since anti-Islamic bigots started cashing in on anti-Muslim conspiracies/diatribes/misinformation since 9/11.
    Keep letting the world know what they are- Loons.
  4. anj Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 2:07 pm Hopefully people will begin to wake up and realise MEK linked spencer or should i say oslo massacre related spencer and his ilk are full of hatred and that “hatred will only beget hatred”
    On his now discredited website he has called in his right wing zionist paymaster david horowitz to defend him.
    Oh the irony!
  5. JD Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 2:14 pm Anders Behring Breivik claims two more terror cells remain at large
    The man who confessed to killing more than 70 people in a bomb and gun massacre on Friday has claimed he belonged to an organisation with two more cells who remain at large.
    At a closed hearing in Oslo, Anders Behring Breivik admitted carrying out the attacks but pleaded not guilty to one of the worst mass killings in peacetime Europe, and told the court he had acted to “save Europe” from Islam.
    Breivik, 32, will be detained in complete isolation for four weeks, with no incoming letters or visitors except for his lawyer, while police investigate his claims to have accomplices. Breivik has previously said he acted alone in the attacks.
    “The accused has made statements today that require further investigation, including that ‘there are two more cells in our organisation’,” said the judge, Kim Heger, who warned that Breivik could tamper with vital evidence if released. He will be held for at least another month after the court-ordered solitary confinement.
    Breivik arrived at court on Monday morning to jeering from a crowd of around 400 people. As a police convoy approached the rear of Oslo’s central court, someone shouted then the crowd surged forward. Bystanders screamed “traitor” and banged on the windows of a police car after one man said he’d spotted Breivik in the back seat
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/25/anders-behring-breivik-terror-cells
  6. JD Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 2:16 pm and 1000′s of people brainwased by Geller Spencer who have read this guys manifesto and have then it to heart. It also contains blue prints to body armer and Bomb makeing and avalible online by simple searching for it on google. I am sure they are dont hitting there 2nd hand targets and will prob try there main Muslims. Scared yet
  7. mindy1 Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 2:24 pm This is truly frightening :( how does anyone of any belief system get to such a state, that they think killing the “enemy” is acceptable??? Let’s hope he is lying about the second cell, or it could get worse :(
  8. JD Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 2:31 pm INDEPENDENCE, MO (KCTV) –
    An Independence man faced a stunning discovery when he walked out to his car Friday morning. The vandalism he saw done to his car prompted him to call the police.
    Imagine you’re getting ready for a job interview. You head out the door and are greeted with bad news. For Fred Soltani and his wife Stacy, Friday was just an ordinary day until Soltani’s wife walked out the door.
    “We were getting ready for work, my wife was getting ready for work and she was about to pull out of the driveway and noticed my car’s windshield had something wrong with it,” said Soltani.
    What she saw included a shattered windshield and a swastika and racial slur aimed at those in the Hispanic community written in white paint on the hood.
    “First reaction was ‘oh my god, this can’t be happening,’” said Soltani.
    Soltani is a first generation Iranian-American and has lived in his Independence neighborhood for several years. He says he hasn’t ever seen this type of activity in the area before.
    “In the neighborhood that we’ve lived here, for about four years, almost four years come November, nothing’s happened that we know about – that is racial profiling like this,” said Soltani.
    After the surprise wore off, Soltani told KCTV5′s Nima Shaffe he felt a combination of emotions.
    “I feel violated at the same time because this is a random act of aggressiveness in that it’s, in my terms, a cowardly act,” said Soltani.
    Now he says it’s time to move on.
    “Whoever done it, I forgive you. That’s one thing about being a good Christian,” said Soltani.
    Soltani tells KCTV5′s Nima Shaffe he filed a police report. Independence Police are now investigating.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    OOPS HE CHRISTIAN REALLY RACIEST PEOPLE BECAUSE HIS NAME IS SOLTANI AND PARENTS FROM ME DOES NOT MEAN HE IS A MOSLEM JUST LIKE SHEIKS ARE ALSO NOT MUSLIM…. IF YOUR GOING TO BEA BIGOT BE A BIGOT TOWARDS THE RIGHT PERSON….
  9. al Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 2:59 pm We see from the dance that lil spency is doing that no amount of distancing and chastisement the Islamophobes have regarding Breivik, will change the fact that theirs is a sinking ship-
  10. Imagine2050 Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 3:03 pm Let’s not leave the John Tanton Network of anti-immigrant groups out of this discussion. Center for Immigration Studies, after all, gets a citing in his manifesto: http://bit.ly/n2ZbBw
  11. Noor Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 3:12 pm check this guy he hits the nail on the head! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeoRqZ6mWzQ&NR=1
  12. Mosizzle Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 3:40 pm Anders Behring Breivik has collected and compiled every piece of Islamophobic garbage about the non-existent “Leftist-Muslim Alliance” in his book, including articles from the Islamophobes that have been exposed here on Loonwatch many times. After his massacre, people around the world will read this book and Breivik hopes some moron will read it and follow his example. He has laid out an entire plan — even how to create more terrorist groups and forge “alliances” with different religious communities to isolate Muslims.
    Spencer, Geller and others have contributed to that book. Their life’s work made that book possible. Every lie about taqiyya, abrogation, dhimmitude and stealth jihad has led up to this and now forms part of that manual that will inspire more morons. It is now more important than ever for Loonwatch to refute the nonsense about Leftists and Muslims that is out there.
    Bat Yeor, who started this Eurabia nonsense, should feel very ashamed now.
  13. Jacob Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 3:46 pm Ali Sina huh? I knew his views would lead to anti-Muslim violence. This whole situation is tragic and disgusting.
  14. Dane Bargeld Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 3:55 pm Okay, but as I pointed out in a comment to the previous article, Breiviks main source of inspiration is anonymous Norwegian blogger “Fjordman”, who Breivik praises in his book. Most of the references to Spencer are via Fjordman’s essays. This is Breivik about Fjordman:
    At that time I had researched most of the primary and secondary
    topics for my book. To my great surprise I found that Fjordman had written about many
    of the same topics I was writing about. The only difference being that he was a
    professional essay writer and I was not. Our views are quite similar with the exception of
    me being an actual armed resistance fighter.
  15. eslaporte Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 4:04 pm Have you heard that Glenn Beck has likened the teens killed in the shooting as “Hitler Youth?”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8660986/Norway-shooting-Glenn-Beck-compares-dead-teenagers-to-Hitler-youth.html
  16. NassirH Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 4:04 pm Well said @Chris, although I would like to add something to the following.
    “While Spencer is quick to point out that he does not himself openly advocate violence (unless it is carried out by Western or Israeli governments against Muslims, of course), there is no doubt that his books and website incite extreme pro-Christian/pro-conservative fanaticism and irrational hatred of both Muslims and anyone with left-wing leanings – and irrationality and hatred, especially when incited by fear-mongering propaganda, soon beget violence.”
    While Spencer is keen on claiming that he doesn’t advocate vigilantism (although he does explicitly support a new “crusade” against Islam), his fellow Jihad Watch writers Hugh Fitzgerald and Roland Shirk don’t seem to have any qualms about supporting violence. For example, during the Egyptian protests earlier this year (when Spencer et al. were claiming that the Muslim Brotherhood would replace Mubarak), Roland Shirk called for a “Tiananmen square” style massacre in Egypt — and then invoked Suharto’s purges in the comments section. It lingered on Jihad Watch for some time and then Spencer quietly deleted Roland’s words. However, unfortunately for Spencer, the Internet has a long memory.
    http://www.realcourage.org/2011/01/anti-islam-calls-for-shooting/
    Hugh Fitzgerald is even worse, in my opinion. We gathered a few of his more bigoted articles on Spencerwatch (see the comments section under the article about him). He openly calls for people to rejoice at the news of Muslim civilians dying, calls Iraqis a “hideous people,” calls for a ban on education for Muslims, etc. It seems that those articles are still on Jihad Watch, as far as I’m aware.
  17. eslaporte Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 4:32 pm We all know just how dangerous Geert Wilders is … before the Norway carnage.
    It is an outrage that it takes this kind of carnage to wake people up to this threat.
    We now have reports that confirm that Anders Behring Breivik not only had links to the EDL — he used a visit to London by Geert Wilders to meet with EDL radicals:
    QUOTE: Breivik was understood to have met leaders of the EDL in March last year when he came to London for the visit of Geert Wilders, the Dutch Right-wing politician. Daryl Hobson, who organises EDL demonstrations, said Breivik, who told police there were “two more cells” ready to follow him, had met members of the group.
    Breivik told his Facebook friends he would be coming to London for Wilders’s visit. “I remember he [Breivik] was on Facebook saying that he felt he had to come over. Maybe he thought it was the only chance he’d get to come to a big demo,” said the source.
    “Geert Wilders was a high-profile anti-Islamic politician, coming to Britain. Every­one was raving about it.
    “He [Breivik] was obviously in contact with some of us. If this bloke was coming all the way from Norway the leadership would have wanted to meet him.
    “If there is someone who can put themselves across in an articulate way about the radicalisation and Islamisation of Europe then people at the top of the EDL are very welcoming.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8661139/Norway-killer-Anders-Behring-Breivik-had-extensive-links-to-English-Defence-League.html
    No matter what Geert Wilders says about his “disgust” about these terrorist attacks in Norway, he cannot distance himself far enough away from this …
  18. Hopper Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 4:37 pm During the years Loonwatch has been warning of an impending attack by a creature such as Breivik, how many Islamic-inspired atrocities have been committed? The answer is thousands; why haven’t the esteemed writers at Loonwatch been warning us of these daily events?
    Further, along with Spencer, Geller, et al, this despicable demon mentions Churchill, Locke, Ghandi, and Jefferson in support of his cause; were all those men intolerant, ignorant, Islamopobes?
    Finally, as far as authorities know at this moment, not a single Muslim was targeted, shot at, or killed during this monster’s rampage; yet Islam, as is customary, is claiming that its glorious Religion of Peace is the main victim. Does this strike anyone as strange?
    Oh, and Garibaldi, please give us the links where we can go to read of Geller’s, “pronouncements of genocide against Muslims and the “political elites” who enable them.” That should make for a fascinating read.
  19. How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 5:30 pm Hopper get your ugly ass out of here
  20. Ismail Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 5:38 pm @ Hooper
    We both know the truth of that matter is the people advocating violence aren’t going to say so publicly unless it is legal and safe to do so. For instance a “we should bomb mecca” when “we” means the US armed forces is a legal voicing of support for mass murder and bigotry by Tancredo and commentators on Jihad Watch and Atlas Shrugs. You will not however see them attend a rally and say “you guys in the audience should go plant bombs in mecca”. I am not saying he supports terror, but I know he isn’t stupid enough to support it openly if he did. It would open him up to investigation and prison. The lunatics aren’t going to tell you unless they feel reasonably safe doing so.
  21. How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 5:41 pm Loon Watch,
    Juan Cole’s piece below which he links to islamophobia watch, has a good rebuttal to the lie that Daniel Pipes spread about Norwegian rapes being mostly Muslim.
    It’s high time you did an article on Daniel Pipes, I think this one would be a good one.
    ———————————-
    White Christian Fundamentalist Terrorism in Norway
    The Irrelevance of the Knights in a Global Society
    Posted on 07/25/2011 by Juan
    Norwegian right wing Christian terrorist Anders Breivik spoke of being a member of the “Knights Templar,” and if anything is further terrorizing about Friday’s attacks beyond their own horror, it is the possibility that an organization was behind them or that there are other members of it as looney and violent as Breivik himself. Update: : Breivik warned Monday that 2 more cells of “our organization” were organized for further attacks. Is this his “Templars”? The name, of course, refers to the medieval order coming out of the Crusades.
    Breivik visited Malta, where the remnants of the real Knights Templar, having turned their resources over to the Knights of St. John the Hospitaller, had run a pirate mini-state for a few hundred years in the early modern period. Breivik, from a Protestant background, advocated a return to Catholicism, but not to the really-existing current church, rather to a pan-Christian revival of a Crusade theocracy.
    The Crusade, he insisted, was necessary because in ten years Muslims would be a majority in most of Europe and they were raping Christian girls. The fear of brown men raping Norwegian women is of course the ultimate in iconic racism, redolent of Jim Crow in the Old South.
    The myth about rape in Oslo is debunked here. The argument has the form of bad statistics. It is alleged that Muslims are only 4% of the population in Norway but are responsible for almost all the rapes. First of all, the allegation is untrue. But consider this: most rapes happen in big cities, where anonymity affords more opportunity for subsequent escape. Immigrants are mostly in cities and are a bigger proportion of the urban population than they are of the general population. Then, rapists tend to be young, and recent immigrants groups are disproportionately young. Then, rape is more common in low-income areas, and, you guessed it, immigrants are poorer. So if you studied rape among poor urban youth, it may well be that Muslims commit fewer rapes than would be statistically expected, in that demographic group (the relevant one). Moreover, a lot of the victims of rape would also be poor, urban, young immigrant women.
    This wicked fantasy that most European rapists are Muslim immigrants is a staple of the far right, and it has contributed to hatred and violence toward European Muslims. This theme, like many Muslim-hating canards, appears to have been started by McCarthyite Daniel Pipes, a far right Zionist who “watches” American academics that do not toe Breivik’s sort of line at an invasion-of-privacy enterprise ominously called ‘Campus Watch’; and given the turn to violence among people of Breivik’s stripe, it is only a matter of time until Pipes’s organization whips some kindred looney into a homocidal frenzy against those liberal, multi-cultural, Muslim-coddling professors– so like the people at the Labor Party meet on Utoya. And why would Pipes be writing about rape in Scandinavia anyway? It is because people who want to steal more Palestinian land think that they can run cover for the often fanatical and violent West Bank settlers by scaring white people into thinking Muslims in general are a threat and should be discounted, and that if they get kicked out of their homes they’re just getting what they deserve.
    read more here
    http://www.juancole.com/2011/07/the-irrelevance-of-the-knights-in-a-global-society.html
  22. eslaporte Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 5:58 pm While Hopper cites “thousands of attacks,” bet he cannot tell us how many were in Europe?
    We all know about the promotion of the so-called “Leftist/Muslim alliance” to rip up Western Christian civilization and the “land of dhimmitude.” Well – “knitting the threads together” was (well) done by Batty Bat Ye’or who makes accusations against the EC/EU’s relationship with the Arab world which is NOT mainstream and well outside of standard theory for EU relations. When mainstream authors get around to reading Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis, this book will be the new “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” and is in the league.
    I did my master’s paper on the how EU foreign policy and am well aware of how it got established in 1973 and the oil crisis. Ye’or’s ideas are outside of mainstream and quite kooky!
    This outrageous theory is present in Anders Behring Breivik 1500 page manifesto, which I too have a copy of. This theory of “Lestist/Muslim alliance for dhimmitude” is present in Breivik’s writings and “enabling Muslims and Islam in Norway” is the reason why he attacked the democracy camp …
  23. NassirH Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 6:27 pm Hopper:
    Oh, and Garibaldi, please give us the links where we can go to read of Geller’s, “pronouncements of genocide against Muslims and the “political elites” who enable them.” That should make for a fascinating read.
    The article “Looniest Blogger Ever” has some links to Geller calling for the nuclear destruction of majority Muslim cities: Mecca, Medina, and Tehran. There are also other examples, including her support for Stalin’s anti-Chechen pogroms or her “denial” (i.e. support) of the Bosnian genocide. (Breivik also “denied” the Bosnian genocide.)
    Anyways, I think it’s quite funny how many posts you’ve made attempting to defend your precious Islamophobia after Breivik did what can only be considered the logical “next step” if one actually believes what Robert Spencer et al. claim (remember that at first you thought a Muslim was behind the attacks in Norway). In that sense you’re no different from the loons who inspired Breivik in the first place.
    Finally, as far as authorities know at this moment, not a single Muslim was targeted, shot at, or killed during this monster’s rampage; yet Islam, as is customary, is claiming that its glorious Religion of Peace is the main victim. Does this strike anyone as strange?
    More lies?
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/07/25/20110725norway-survivor-afghan-war-zone0725.html
  24. Johnny Knocks Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 6:33 pm I DO NOT attribute the attacks to Pamela Gellar and Robert Spencer. Their idealogy was certainly behind the mindset of this terrorist, but in no way have they expressed their undenying support to these attacks. Regardless, this should make people around them think twice about even considering their hate filled speech as legitimate rhetoric. What they have done is dangerous, and they should really try to reevaluate their goals.
    On a final note, look at one thing Pamela said earlier today – “No dealings, no emails, no nothing,” Geller said. “He mentions me once in a 1,500 page ‘manifesto,’ and this is the tie? Does anyone see how completely ridiculous this whole thing is?”
    Although putting all the blame on Pamela is a bit over the top, her connections cannot be ignored. Then again, it wasn’t her who pulled the final trigger. What I find most funny however is how she thinks that its ridiculous to tie her to the massacre from just ONE mention. This is the same person who called Imam Rauf a Hamas and terrorist sympathizer because his 3rd cousins teachers son was caught in the same photo as some no-name Radical Imam. She is the worst of all hypocrites.
  25. Rob Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 7:14 pm ApolloReaks and Popper are spinning themselves in circles. Just like the rest of the proud internet bigots, they’re in full damage control trying to salvage their already decrepit ship. But it’s entertaining to watch these idiots trying to create new excuses and find different angles to differentiate themselves from this murderer. But they’re all the same right-wing extremist loons who use violence and deception to get their point through.
  26. corey Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 7:31 pm @rob
    don’t worry about those two they’re pissed that the shooter didn’t turn out to be a muslim as jw embarrassingly jumped the gun on and are just trying to save face and also wasn’t jefferson supportive of islam?
  27. Hopper Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 7:31 pm NassirH
    You may be a person I can deal with. You’re absolutely right-Geller does indeed call for the nuclear destruction of Mecca and Medina in the event of an Iranian first strike, and such sentiments are monstrous. Geller should be damned for writing that sentence, and I do damn her without reservation. It would be, as you point out, genocide against people who had nothing to do with the events taking place.
    I apologize.
    That said, can you admit that Hussein Kazemi just happened to be on the island and was in no way targeted? That he was simply in the wrong place, at the wrong time?
    If you can admit that, it might be a step towards you, me, and others raising the level of discourse on this forum above the level it now resides. I am not Muslim, I think you may be, but I’m not sure…can we question and probe each other’s beliefs in a coherent, rational way?
  28. eslaporte Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 7:33 pm Breivik also said that the Bosnian Serbs were ridding their country of Islam. the same for the 1999 atrocities in Kosovo.
    He also had an ‘indictment’ of NATO leaders for the “crimes” in the 1999 action against Yugoslavia (Serbia).
    This is a manual that instructs and encourages others to take further violent action against Europe and European leaders who are “enabling Islam.” There are also tacit threats against European leaders and even a form threat letter to send to your local national leaders to “warn them that a Knight Templar was coming to carry out a death sentence.”
    Sites like Loonwatch have done a exemplary job in trying to warn against this type of violent extremism and terrorism. We now have to see these horrible murders before European leaders get up off their lard butts to do anything about it. Too little, too late.
  29. Skhan Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 7:47 pm Geehad Bob and Halal Dork, I still haven’t heard anything from you. Evil Mooslim terrorists got your tongue?
  30. corey Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 9:35 pm @skahn
    yeah why haven’t they said anything on this cause I could use a good laugh, especially halals comments can be comedy gold from thinking robert morey is an intellectual genius, to his cop out responses when he is beaten in a debate.
  31. Jack Cope Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 10:23 pm Loonwatch and others:
    I would strongly advise you *not* to promote this guys book as it contains pages upon pages of very detailed bomb making techniques to say the least. While bomb making guides are readily available online the guides provided in this ‘book’ are very different in that they actually worked and detail his ‘trail and error’ techniques and modifications of the methods you can find online to make the more potent and reliable. There is even a day by day log of how to carry out an attack such as his. As a person with a basic grasp of such things I can tell you that this is a major development from chemists and college kids posting their pyrotechnics recipies online.
    However, we cannot just brush this ‘book’ under the carpet and not let it be read, upon reading it a lot of things become clear regarding the whole ‘Islamaphobia’ thing and the links to mainstream figures such as Spencer.
    With this in mind I have produced a ‘cleaner version’ of the book; deleting bomb making techniques and other such material from the document for use by persons such as yourself. This means that people can study this madman’s thoughts and see how dangerous they are *without* the danger of propagating bomb making manuals.
    A copy is available upon request from jackcope@bandofstrangers.com and I hope to provide an online copy in the next week.
    Jack
  32. NassirH Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 10:49 pm Hopper:
    Geller is not only one who thinks that nuking majority Muslim countries is perfectly acceptable. The list of Islamophobes who agree with her sentiments is long (Walid Shoebat, Michael Savage, Joe Kaufman, etc.). Spencer has never condemned any of these Islamophobes for holding such genocidal beliefs; rather, he claims he opposes nuking Mecca on the grounds that it would give Muslims something to “complain about.” (How dare those Mooslims whine about having bombs dropped on them!) He couldn’t care less about all the civilians who would be killed.
    “That said, can you admit that Hussein Kazemi just happened to be on the island and was in no way targeted? That he was simply in the wrong place, at the wrong time?”
    I doubt Breivik was “targeting” a specific person; it seems clear that he attempted to kill anyone he could find on the island. What is also clear are his motives and deeply held beliefs, both significantly influenced by the usual loons. By his own admittance, he massacred about 90 people to save Europe from the “Marxist-Islamic threat.” And he used the life’s work of Spencer, Bostom, Geller, Fjordman, etc. to buttress his beliefs and justify his actions.
  33. Jack Cope Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 11:08 pm Hopper; where is ‘Islam’, that great monolith that we Muslims seem to be somehow wired into, claiming it was ‘attacked’?
    However I would suggest that you read this guys little (well it’s quite big) ‘book’ for an interesting insight into how things like this will keep happening as long as the hate is spread. Nuking Mecca is just part of it… anyone reading some of these forums or the comments section or websites of people like Mr Spencer and Ms. Geller will find sentiments of this ‘book’ echoed whole heatedly in there, often word for word. Joy, now we get a ‘Christian Al-Queda’…
  34. I have one! Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 11:23 pm Ali Sina, you troll.! Remember the days when Solomon Yedidiyah Tulbure (Sol Tulbure) copied your book and you used to cry like infant in yahoo groups?. ((Same goes to you Spencer.))
    It all started from http://www.faithfreedom.org http://www.nazarene.net http://www.secularislam.org/ .. RAWA.org and humanists.net… All working together in the late 90s and still working.. One thing has changed for assho%$#s like them. Your hate has backfired on you and all the blame for the killings is on YOU now.
  35. khan4 Says:
    July 25th, 2011 at 11:30 pm Loonwatch and its members warned us for years what the consequences of Geller’s, Spencer’s, etc’s rhetoric would lead to. Preaching hate can lead to dire consequences. It’s too bad you guys were right.
    I guess it’s time to keep an eye on those Christian fundamentalists. If they have funny sounding Christian names, search them excessively. We need to make sure they are the good Christians and not the bad ones. Let’s pass the Citizen Act and destroy our democracy more.
    BTW, that jerk Bill Maher didn’t even mention the Norway shooting on his show until his overtime segment, which doesn’t air on HBO. If it was a Muslim who did this heinous act, Maher would have gone on a nasty diatribe about Islam and talked about how great Israel is.
  36. How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 12:07 am Elsaporte
    We all know about the promotion of the so-called “Leftist/Muslim alliance” to rip up Western Christian civilization
    This makes you part of the plot too :)
    This is why Brievik targeted Norwegians, or rather didn’t distinquish between Muslims and what he described as “marxists”. That is the code word that extreme rightwingers use for the left wing and for liberals.
    Yup, you’re all part of the conspiracy too. It’s sad to see the bereaved families of those killed. May God help them.
  37. How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 12:15 am Loon Watch, you got another mention here at this Canadian site,
    Loonwatch warned about the dangerous fools who inspired Anders Behring Breivik
    http://www.straight.com/article-406271/vancouver/loonwatch-warned-about-dangerous-fools-who-inspired-anders-behring-breivik
    by Charlie Smith on July 25,
    The appropriately named loonwatch.com website has offered some insights into why a Norwegian nutbar named Anders Behring Breivik became a mass murderer.
    Part of the reason that this “intelligent individual, wealthy and from a privileged background” acted this way because he was inspired by other nutbars that Europe is being taken over by Muslims.
    “He believes this despite the fact that there are no Muslim Armies occupying ANY European nation, there are no Muslim Armies that have set up bases in ANY European nation,” the website states.
    In his 1,500-page manifesto, Brievik states that he was inspired by various Islamophobes, notably Andrew Bostom, Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, and Geert Wilders.
    The loonwatch site has been warning about them for quite some time.
    Here’s just a tiny slice of what Brievik wrote: “Unfortunately for us, more than 95% of today’s Journalists, editors, publishers are pro-Eurabians (support European multiculturalism). The same goes for 85% of Western European politicians and more than 90% of EU parliamentarians.”
    So therefore, in his twisted world, they must be executed.
    Loonwatch.com predicts that he’ll spawn copycats.
  38. How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 12:23 am Loon Watch,
    Juan Cole from Informed Comment, has written some good pieces about Briekvik. He also unravelled how Daniel Pipes lied about the Norwegian rapes being comitted by Muslims mainly. This has been propogated by the likes of Robert Spencer. He links to a site (Islamophobia Watch) which has the figures and shows how Daniel Pipes twisted them. It was also a lie that Pat Condell propogated.
    It’s about time you did a piece on Daniel Pipes too. Could you follow this up with an article?
    ———————–
    The Irrelevance of the Knights in a Global Society
    Posted on 07/25/2011 by Juan
    The myth about rape in Oslo is debunked here. The argument has the form of bad statistics. It is alleged that Muslims are only 4% of the population in Norway but are responsible for almost all the rapes. First of all, the allegation is untrue. But consider this: most rapes happen in big cities, where anonymity affords more opportunity for subsequent escape. Immigrants are mostly in cities and are a bigger proportion of the urban population than they are of the general population. Then, rapists tend to be young, and recent immigrants groups are disproportionately young. Then, rape is more common in low-income areas, and, you guessed it, immigrants are poorer. So if you studied rape among poor urban youth, it may well be that Muslims commit fewer rapes than would be statistically expected, in that demographic group (the relevant one). Moreover, a lot of the victims of rape would also be poor, urban, young immigrant women.
    This wicked fantasy that most European rapists are Muslim immigrants is a staple of the far right, and it has contributed to hatred and violence toward European Muslims. This theme, like many Muslim-hating canards, appears to have been started by McCarthyite Daniel Pipes, a far right Zionist who “watches” American academics that do not toe Breivik’s sort of line at an invasion-of-privacy enterprise ominously called ‘Campus Watch’ and given the turn to violence among people of Breivik’s stripe, it is only a matter of time until Pipes’s organization whips some kindred looney into a homocidal frenzy against those liberal, multi-cultural, Muslim-coddling professors– so like the people at the Labor Party meet on Utoya. And why would Pipes be writing about rape in Scandinavia anyway?
    It is because people who want to steal more Palestinian land think that they can run cover for the often fanatical and violent West Bank settlers by scaring white people into thinking Muslims in general are a threat and should be discounted, and that if they get kicked out of their homes they’re just getting what they deserve.
    read more here
    http://www.juancole.com/2011/07/the-irrelevance-of-the-knights-in-a-global-society.html
  39. safak Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 1:57 am “Anders Behring Breivik is the polo sweater wearing anti-Muslim Right-wing nationalist Crusader icon of Islamophobes worldwide, he is their Che Guevara and he will inspire more copycats in his wake.”
    Well now that Spencer and Geller and other loons have worked overtime to distance themselves from Breivik and strongly condemned him and called him all sorts of names, do you think those other cells Breivik alluded to (if they exist, and I hope to God they don’t) will start calling Spencer and Wilders sell-outs and traitors if they surface in the near future, and maybe even target them eventually if they’re allowed to grow to Europe’s version of Al Qaeda proportions?
  40. marco Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 2:26 am @Hopper
    Pam Geller supports genocide. 1stly, she has defended the likes of Milosvic & Radovan Karadic. She denies they did anything wrong, their only crime according to her was fighting war with war. She supports the Bosnian genocide.
    She supports the genocide Stalin committed against Chechan muslims shortly after WW2, when he mass deported them to Siberia – and many died.
    She called for the destruction of the Al-Aqsa mosque and later deleted the page and denied she ever said such a thing ( thank God for Webarchive)
    No where has it been claimed Islam or Muslims are the victims here. Its being pointed out, hatred of Islam & leftists that defend Muslims – as preached by these loons is 1 of the major reasons why this happenned.
    The fact is, i personally believe – such an attack like this will happen again, and this time It’ll be against muslims.
    Last year, a Jacksonville, Florida mosque was spared such carnage when a pipe bomb was set off just outside – when people inside were praying.
    It could have been castrophic had it gone off inside. Luckily, no one was hurt and it never even amde the news.
    If the Park-51 islamic center gets built, taht will be a definite target – because of the hatred and hysteria Pam Geller & Spencer have whipped up against Imam Rauf, his wife and the people behind it.
    Other mosques will be targetted, and more and more muslims will be violently attacked, and eventually there will be a massacre.
    All it’ll take is 1 massacre done by a nutjob, that read Geller or Spencer’s websites or books and those 2 are done for.
  41. marco Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 2:46 am Oh this is just perfect. This is going mainstream media.
    In The New York Times, Rob Spencer and his co-scumbags are all being cited
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/25/us/25debate.html?_r=2&hp
    Pam Geller is complaining about how she and Spencer have been swamped by phone calls
    “eedless to say, I have been fielding calls from an agenda-driven media hellbent on destroying the freedom-loving voices on the right with the acts of a lone psychopath. NBC Nightly News is calling (that’s a first). And Robert Spencer is besieged with media requests. NY Times, “Killings in Norway Spotlight Anti-Muslim Thought in U.S.”
    Instead of mourning the 91 victims of this horrible tragedy, the media is wielding it like a club to bludgeon the voices of freedom.”
    Couldn’t happen to anyone better. Serves that evil Harpy right. As time goes on, she and her buddy Spencer will be linked to more people who carry out acts of violence against Muslims – and then the heat will really be on these 2 scumbags.
  42. Link182 Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 2:56 am Beivik explictly stated that his actions were motivated by a desire to save Europe the Muslims and that slaughtering Labour party recruits was necessary to stop Muslim immigration. Where did he get this kind of nonsense into his head? From reading Geller, Spencer and co.
    Given that this atrocity was clearly islamaphobically motivated, and given that Islamaphobes clearly influenced this man, I think it’s reasonable that Geller, Spencer etc be arrested to prevent them doing further harm.
  43. Farlowe Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 3:39 am I disagree. Spencer has never said to kill anyone. Neither has Mohammed in his Quran. It is the same type of logic to blame Spencer for the deaths of innocents and to blame Mohammed for the deaths of innocents. Mohammed never endorsed bombings yet there are people who say they are following Mohammed’s Quran. Mohammed was never a fan of unbelievers. Spencer was never a fan of believers. But neither of them endorsed killing of innocents.
  44. safak Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 4:25 am @Farlowe
    So why does Spencer blame Mohammed for the deaths of innocents?
  45. safak Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 4:29 am @Farlowe
    Or rather, why is that distinction not being made when it comes to Islamic terrorists? Islamophobia has become part of the mainstream, just look at how several GOP presedential candidates freely engage in bigotry when it comes to Islam in order to push their campaigns. Why are we now drawing a line when its anti-Islam personalities that are the source of the inspiration? Would the same courtesy be extended to Muslims if this had been an attack by Islamic terrorist groups, quoting out of Islamic texts or the works of current Islamic writers/personalities?
  46. banglapaddy Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 7:04 am So have we heard from this fjordman character?
    The american loons interest me less at the moment. It’s clear that fjordman has quite the ego-stroking (and possibly lucrative) niche as a “yurpean who gets it” among the americans writing the 21st century protocols. But someone who’s practically a neighbour, who has everything in common with you, spending years citing you and your fellow travellers and going out and massacring 80-odd people in your home town must be a massive, massive shock to the system. Imagine stress and worry comparable to that endured by those of us who lived in NYC after 11 Sept combined with the knowledge that your writings inspired the perpetrator? Plus his anonymity must be at risk.
    This is real what-is-the-man-made-of time for fjordman and co and I’m creepily interested to see how he emerges. I mean, I understand that they’re not going to accept a share of the blame – I sure as hell wouldn’t either and the knowledge that someone in their circle isn’t “all blowhard” like 99.9% of those “brave” keyboard warriors must be shocking! But if it’s with the conspiracy theories and childish defensiveness and the “yeah, but mulsims are worse!” that the american bloggers are coming out with and no change in tone it will prove for sure he’s just a bad, bad person. If it’s with honesty, reflectiveness and some measure of changing the language and what’s acceptable in comments etc he will have a certain amount of my respect.
  47. JD Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 7:25 am /\really all you have to do is go thru his archive 2003 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11
    The Mafia don also does not call directly for violence also but when he says Go handle john what do you think that means
  48. GreatSentinel Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 7:36 am It looks the Western Evangelicals are getting obsessed with Islam or Muslims, no wonder why they always claim this stupid myth “Islam will take over Europe” which in fact the more they talk about Islam, the more obsessed they become, then more they will naturally convert to Islam. At the same time, the Arabs and the Muslims in the Middle East are now struggle to wage war against Salafists and the Islamists who are targeting their religion and their new democracy.
    Although I show condolences to the people of Norway, but this terrorist attack will show two things to the Islamophobe Westerners:
    1) Do not just focus on Islamists extremists, but also focus on homegrown Christian extremists. I have also warn many people in the West not to support the far-right Christian extremists, but yet they won’t listen to me, as if they believe “It’s better to side with the Christian extremists than siding with the Muslim extremists”. I can’t tell how many of them were brainwashed but almost all these people believe the Evangelicals are “protecting white beautiful and hot Christian European girls” from being “raped by degenerated Muslims and immigrants”. And look now what happen when you side the Evangelicals, your girl ‘guardian’ has killed more Christians than Muslims!!! After this attack, this will debunk the stupid statement “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly ALL terrorists are Muslims”
    2) That how it feels like if a Christian commits a terrorist attack, will the whole religion Christianity is to be blamed? Today many Muslims (I’m not Muslim) has suffered many Muslim deception from the people like al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden who hijacks their religion, and those stupid Islamophobe who blames “Allah the Satan”, “Mohammad the ‘sick evil pedophile homosexual’” or “Shit Quran teaching believers to kill infidels” all these nonsense. Thank God, most Muslims ain’t stupid (except the radicalized Pakistanis and the Afghans) enough to criticise Christianity as the ‘root cause’ of the terrorism.
    Muslims should stay out of Salafism, Wahhabism or Qutbism, while Christians must stay out of Evangelicalism, if the followers wants to save their image of religion from these hijackers or politicians.
  49. How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 10:18 am Did anti-Muslim U.S. bloggers inspire the Oslo massacre?
    A Norwegian who allegedly murdered nearly 100 people cited several American writers in his lengthy anti-Muslim, anti-immigration manifesto
    read more here
    http://theweek.com/article/index/217611/did-anti-muslim-us-bloggers-inspire-the-oslo-massacre
  50. How Islamic inventors changed the world www.1001inventions.com Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 10:22 am Oslo Killer Posted On My Site
    Nils August Andresen
    How did this worldview of war, death and destruction arise in my peaceful, my beloved country of Norway? What is the relationship between a demonizing political debate and violence? Are regulations, laws or a stricter editorial policies part of the solution?
    After the excruciating, but ultimately unanswerable, questions that all Norwegians have asked themselves over the last few days, about an evil that we cannot understand, these thoughts have plagued my mind since Friday. I have asked myself these questions because they are of importance to us these days; but also, more personally, because I, as editor of the conservative Norwegian website Minerva, have been forced to confront the fact that Anders Behring Breivik, the mass murderer of my countrymen, has visited our website, and posted comments in our forum.
    =========
    We know that, among the websites Breivik expressed some admiration for, Document.no was by far the most moderate. He mainly sought what he thought to be likeminded people outside Norway, in websites such as JihadWatch, Gates of Vienna and The Brussels Journal. Absent global Internet censorship, the consequences of pushing these views out of the daylight, might be dark indeed. For some, retaining some minimal level of engagement with the lamestream media might give useful alternative input.
    Furthermore, reading postings of extremists might sometimes be useful. As editor of Minerva, I have frequently despaired reading posts in our forum. However, in some regard, it is also useful. It is useful because when we discuss immigration, culture and religion, it is necessary to remember that we speak to many who share at least some of the narratives. Though it often feels exceedingly futile to try to debate these people on the Internet, the effort of learning to debate immigration and religion in a way that addresses a broad range of legitimate concerns while remaining tolerant is necessary, and will become increasingly so in the years to come.
    read more here
    http://www.frumforum.com/oslo-killer-posted-on-my-site
  51. Mosizzle Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 10:44 am Bat Ye’or claims the attacks are “suspicious” because the authors mentioned in the document are those that the “Norwegian Leftist Government” wants to “silence” and is seriously considering the possibility that the document was faked.
    In other words, there is a “Leftist-Muslim Alliance” trying to silence Islamophobes. Is anyone surprised that Breivik was inspired by her? Well, somehow, she is:
    “This sudden smear campaign and accusations against authors who live in different countries miles away from Norway, authors that governments want to silence, is very suspicious. Now more things are known: the text of the man could be a fabrication put together at the last minute; the police knew the criminal, yet he could buy all this ammunition and do this massive massacre by himself. And now, authors, writers and politicians disliked by the Norwegian Leftist government are accused of having inspired, by their democratic criticism, this massive crime that the police should have prevented, because this is their duty to do so. Something smells in all that. Is this a new tactic to suppress free thinking and free culture? Universities? Books that displease the regime? Are we going back to dictatorial Nazi or communist regimes, burning books and fabricating proofs to label people?”
    Although she doesn’t directly say it, it’s clear she is suspecting the Norwegian government of involvement and the police of deliberately letting this happen — just because those pesky Leftists want to silence her.
    This is exactly the kind of thinking that led to this massacre.
  52. Perseveranze Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 11:07 am Norway killing then EDL leader being arrested… This has been such a horrible week for Islamaphobes LOL.
  53. Khushboo Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 11:26 am Why are we comparing out beloved prophet to hideous Spencer?! Spencer is full of hate and obsessed with demonizing Muslims which has influenced crazies to verbally and physically attack innocent Muslims and innocent non-Muslims (i.e. Norway).
    Our beloved prophet (pbuh) has spread Islam peacefully and never hated anyone but instead forgave those enemies who attempted to kill him and asked for forgiveness. The Quran mentions how those enemies broke their treaties and then, only then, were they killed which happens in this country as well. It’s called Treason! Also, any enemy who tries to kill you should be killed, no? Does that really make you a warrior?
    Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was against oppression, but after 13 years of aggression from his brutal enemies, he finally learned to fight.
  54. Peakofelephants Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 11:51 am Since the send-a-tip section of the site seems to be continuously broken…
    Great piece from the SPLC here:
    American Anti-Muslim Activists Throw Devoted Follower Breivik Under Bus
    http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/07/26/american-anti-muslim-activists-throw-devoted-follower-breivik-under-bus/
  55. Khushboo Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 11:59 am ^hilarious! However, if he killed innocent Muslims instead, these Islamophobes would be cheering him on!
  56. Dawood Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 3:29 pm I seem to remember an interview (well, so-called “debate”) that Spencer did a while ago with one of his teachers regarding Islam, where both basically agreed that it was modernity and its associated attitudes, politics and views that were the greatest enemy to Christianity rather than Islam per se, in other words “leftism”. Does anyone else remember this? It was covered on Spencer Watch if I remember correctly.
  57. corey Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 4:18 pm @dawood
    http://spencerwatch.com/2010/11/09/robert-spencer-v-peter-kreeft-the-only-good-muslim-is-a-bad-muslim/
    talking about this one were it looked like it was just a setup to make himself look good to his fans hell his fans bought it if you read the comments on jw were you can find it there.
  58. corey Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 4:34 pm @kushboo
    actually as I have said before they are completely indifferent to anything bad that happens to muslims because they think its either an act or they somehow think they deserve it if you remember how jw reacted during orange county they with the exception of one “kingdom key” were on board with it, then there was the incident with the two imams kicked off a plane http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/05/us-airways-captain-on-flying-imams-incident-i-can-promise-you-the-captain-didnt-throw-those-people-o.html they made the pilot a hero and made the two imams public enemy for daring to board a flight at all, so with that they will probably say somthing along the lines of “now those mooslims have something to whine about even though there co religionists slaughter Christians in the middle east everyday” just a guess but I don’t think its far off.
  59. Khushboo Says:
    July 26th, 2011 at 7:30 pm ^oh yes indeedy, I remember! That’s exactly what they say and will continue to say, not a guess.

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Forget Anonymous: Evidence Suggests GOP Hacked, Stole 2004 Election

Average’s comment: In KSA it’s called SELECTION, in the USA it’s  called DECEPTION. Wake me up when honesty reigns free….

By John Thorpe
Benzinga Staff Writer
July 21, 2011 1:07 PM

Three generations from now, when our great-grandchildren are sitting barefoot in their shanties and wondering how in the hell America turned from the high-point of civilization to a third-world banana republic, they will shake their fists and mutter one name: George Effin’ Bush.
Ironically, it won’t be for any of the things that liberals have been harping on the Bush Administration, either during or after his term in office. Sure, misguided tax cuts that destroyed the surplus, and lax regulations that doomed the economy, and two amazingly awful wars in deserts half a world away are all terrible, empire-sapping events. But they pale in comparison to what it appears the Republican Party did to get President Bush re-elected in 2004.
“A new filing in the King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell case includes a copy of the Ohio Secretary of State election production system configuration that was in use in Ohio’s 2004 presidential election when there was a sudden and unexpected shift in votes for George W. Bush,” according to Bob Fitrakis, columnist at http://www.freepress.org and co-counsel in the litigation and investigation.
If you recall, Ohio was the battleground state that provided George Bush with the electoral votes needed to win re-election. Had Senator John Kerry won Ohio’s electoral votes, he would have been elected instead.
Evidence from the filing suggests that Republican operatives — including the private computer firms hired to manage the electronic voting data — were compromised.
Fitrakis isn’t the only attorney involved in pursuing the truth in this matter. Cliff Arnebeck, the lead attorney in the King Lincoln case, exchanged emails with IT security expert Stephen Spoonamore. He asked Spoonamore whether or not SmarTech had the capability to “input data” and thus alter the results of Ohio’s 2004 election. His response sent a chill up my spine.
“Yes. They would have had data input capacities. The system might have been set up to log which source generated the data but probably did not,” Spoonamore said. In case that seems a bit too technical and “big deal” for you, consider what he was saying. SmarTech, a private company, had the ability in the 2004 election to add or subtract votes without anyone knowing they did so.
The filing today shows how, detailing the computer network system’s design structure, including a map of how the data moved from one unit to the next. Right smack in the middle of that structure? Inexplicably, it was SmarTech.
Spoonamore (keep in mind, he is the IT expert here) concluded from the architectural maps of the Ohio 2004 election reporting system that, “SmarTech was a man in the middle. In my opinion they were not designed as a mirror, they were designed specifically to be a man in the middle.”
A “man in the middle” is not just an accidental happenstance of computing. It is a deliberate computer hacking setup, one where the hacker sits, literally, in the middle of the communication stream, intercepting and (when desired, as in this case) altering the data. It’s how hackers swipe your credit card number or other banking information. This is bad.
A mirror site, which SmarTech was allegedly supposed to be, is simply a backup site on the chance that the main configuration crashes. Mirrors are a good thing.
Until now, the architectural maps and contracts from the Ohio 2004 election were never made public, which may indicate that the entire system was designed for fraud. In a previous sworn affidavit to the court, Spoonamore declared: “The SmarTech system was set up precisely as a King Pin computer used in criminal acts against banking or credit card processes and had the needed level of access to both county tabulators and Secretary of State computers to allow whoever was running SmarTech computers to decide the output of the county tabulators under its control.”
Spoonamore also swore that “…the architecture further confirms how this election was stolen. The computer system and SmarTech had the correct placement, connectivity, and computer experts necessary to change the election in any manner desired by the controllers of the SmarTech computers.”
SmarTech was part of three computer companies brought in to manage the elections process for Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, a Republican. The other two were Triad and GovTech Solutions. All three companies have extensive ties to the Republican party and Republican causes.
In fact, GovTech was run by Mike Connell, who was a fiercely religious conservative who got involved in politics to push a right-wing social agenda. He was Karl Rove’s IT go-to guy, and was alleged to be the IT brains behind the series of stolen elections between 2000 and 2004.
Connell was outed as the one who stole the 2004 election by Spoonamore, who, despite being a conservative Republican himself, came forward to blow the whistle on the stolen election scandal. Connell gave a deposition on the matter, but stonewalled. After the deposition, and fearing perjury/obstruction charges for withholding information, Connell expressed an interest in testifying further as to the extent of the scandal.
“He made it known to the lawyers, he made it known to reporter Larisa Alexandrovna of Raw Story, that he wanted to talk. He was scared. He wanted to talk. And I say that he had pretty good reason to be scared,” said Mark Crispin Miller, who wrote a book on the scandal.
Connell was so scared for his security that he asked for protection from the attorney general, then Attorney General Michael Mukasey. Connell told close friends that he was expecting to get thrown under the bus by the Rove team, because Connell had evidence linking the GOP operative to the scandal and the stolen election, including knowledge of where Rove’s missing emails disappeared to.
Before he could testify, Connell died in a plane crash.
Harvey Wasserman, who wrote a book on the stolen 2004 election, explained that the combination of computer hacking, ballot destruction, and the discrepancy between exit polling (which showed a big Kerry win in Ohio) and the “real” vote tabulation, all point to one answer: the Republicans stole the 2004 election.
“The 2004 election was stolen. There is absolutely no doubt about it. A 6.7% shift in exit polls does not happen by chance. And, you know, so finally, we have irrefutable confirmation that what we were saying was true and that every piece of the puzzle in the Ohio 2004 election was flawed,” Wasserman said.
Mark Crispin Miller also wrote a book on the subject of stolen elections, and focused on the 2004 Ohio presidential election. Here is what he had to say about it.
There were three phases of chicanery. First, there was a pre-election period, during which the Secretary of State in Ohio, Ken Blackwell, was also co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Ohio, which is in itself mind-boggling, engaged in all sorts of bureaucratic and legal tricks to cut down on the number of people who could register, to limit the usability of provisional ballots. It was really a kind of classic case of using the letter of the law or the seeming letter of the law just to disenfranchise as many people as possible.

On Election Day, there was clearly a systematic undersupply of working voting machines in Democratic areas, primarily inner city and student towns, you know, college towns. And the Conyers people found that in some of the most undersupplied places, there were scores of perfectly good voting machines held back and kept in warehouses, you know, and there are many similar stories to this. And other things happened that day.

After Election Day, there is explicit evidence that a company called Triad, which manufactures all of the tabulators, the vote-counting tabulators that were used in Ohio in the last election, was systematically going around from county to county in Ohio and subverting the recount, which was court ordered and which never did take place. The Republicans will say to this day, ‘There was a recount in Ohio, and we won that.’ That’s a lie, one of many, many staggering lies. There was never a recount.
And now, it seems, there never will be.
You can reach the author by email john@benzinga.com or on twitter @johndthorpe.

Read more: http://www.benzinga.com/news/11/07/1789905/forget-anonymous-evidence-suggests-gop-hacked-stole-2004-election#ixzz1TIcKxIs3

Breivik the Neo-Con – Media disinformation goes up a gear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxNaP-C6JMk

Above is the URL for the video uploaded by the Norwegian Neo- Con mass-murderer Anders Behring Breivik shortly before his killing spree.

The clip has been hurriedly deleted by YouTube. [See attached screen shot taken on Monday 25th July 2011 at 12:25pm UK time.]
Jewish pressure undoubtedly achieved that deletion. Jewry does not want the generality of gentiles to know what the 
Jerusalem Post was ready to convey to its Israeli readership. That report, plus Breiviks own writings before they were expunged from the web, make clear the following:

So far from being a nationalist, Breivik was a Neo-Con who advocated both support for Israel and murderous hostility to Muslims, not just in Europe but in Palestine and elsewhere. So far from being a racist, he explicitly opposes multi-culturalism not multi-racialism. He believed that Afro-Asians should be allowed to settle in Norway and elsewhere in Europe, just so long as they were not Muslims.

He also demanded positive support not just a civilised toleration for homosexuality. In addition to all of this, he was a keen Freemason. We can tell this because he posted a photo of himself, in full Masonic regalia, on his Facebook page. (The expression on his face in this and other photographs of himself, and the poses that he adopted, are all indications of his raging narcissism.)

This range of ideological ingredients do not feature in the manifesto of any authentic European / white nationalist movement, past or present.

Breiviks Neo-Con views were explicit in his original Facebook entry but that, like his YouTube posting, has been hurriedly deleted. However, his Facebook entry was soon after replaced by another, different entry in his name, but in English!

All these frenzied efforts to hide what Breivik really was (including a decision by the Judge at his first hearing today to hold the session in secret without any press or public observers) has been matched by an equally frenzied campaign by the mainstream media especially the BBC here in Britain to depict Breivik as a far right …. racist …. extreme nationalist …. neo-Nazi, etc.

In tandem with that media misrepresentation is a campaign to suggest that further legal steps must be taken and new laws contrived to restrict free speech for those who argue against the imposition on European nations of a multi-racial society. The multi-racial society in Britain has no democratic legitimacy because it was never put to and approved by the electorate in any general election. We were never asked. When we protested, the Westminster traitors adopted the repressive Race Relations Act which has been drafted for them and circulated by the Board of Deputies of British Jews under the title: The Group Libel Bill.

The writings pro-Zionist, pro-Israel, pro-Jewish Breivik indicates that he was aware of the contradictory state of affairs whereby much of Jewry in the Diaspora actively campaign in favour of mass coloured immigration into European heartlands yet in Israel treat the indigenous Palestinian-Arab population with a barbaric form of genocidal ethnic-cleansing not dissimilar to the treatment of the North American Red Indians during the 19th century.

Breivik was clearly driven insane by Neo-Con propaganda and sought to replicate the kind of race-hatred inspired massacre which have been perpetrated by his Israeli heroes against the Palestinians on a regular basis since before Israel was even proclaimed. The fact that he should select as his victims nearly 100 of his fellow Norwegians, most of whom were teenagers, is evidence enough to demolish media lies that he was a nationalist.

Martin W.



Norway’s monster and THE question

By:Alan Hart
How much was the mind of Anders Behring Breivik conditioned and warped by Zionist propaganda as peddled with the assistance of Christian fundamentalism by much of the Western mainstream media and many web sites?

In his summary of what the monster had stated behind closed doors in court, Judge Heger said he had argued that he wanted to create “the greatest loss possible to Norway’s governing Labour Party”, which he accused of failing the country on immigration and opening the door to the “Muslim colonization” of Norway and all of Europe.
There could not have been a more effective way of inflicting at a single stroke a great loss than gunning down many members of the Norwegian Labour Party’s youth wing, the Workers Youth League (AUF), which was assembled on Utoya Island.
Two days before the massacre there, and as Gilad Atzmon has researched and noted, the AUF’s leader, Eskil Pedersen, gave an interview to Dagbladet, Norway’s second largest tabloid newspaper. In it he said: “The AUF has long been a supporter of an international boycott of Israel but the decision of the last Congress demands that Norway impose a unilateral economic embargo on the country… I acknowledge this is a drastic measure but I think it gives a clear indication that, quite simply, we are tired of Israel’s behaviour.” (My own view is that behind closed doors all Western governments, including the one in Washington D.C. in the person of President Obama, are tired of Israel’s behaviour).
There are two things we know for sure.
One is that Breivik is fanatically anti Islam and pro Zionism.
The other is that Zionism’s propaganda machine has been set to work at full speed, day and night, eight days and nights a week, to demonize, discredit and destroy all who are calling and campaigning for Israel to be boycotted.

From the obscenity of the Nazi holocaust to the present, Zionism’s success in selling its propaganda lies as truth is the reason why the search for peace based on an acceptable amount of justice for the Palestinians has been, and remains, a mission impossible.

I describe the Israel-Palestine conflict as the cancer at the heart of international affairs which threatens to consume us all. It’s bad enough that Zionist propaganda has prevented a cure for it, but if now that same propaganda is inspiring Europeans in Europe to slaughter their own, the future is very, very frightening.
I don’t know the answer to my headline question but I think investigators in Norway, prosecutors and psychiatrists, must dig deep enough to find it.
ORIGINAL POSTING LINK: http://www.alanhart.net/norway%E2%80%99s-monster-and-the-question/#more-1563

Alan Hart is an author, former Middle East Chief Correspondent for Independent Television News, and former BBC Panorama presenter specialising in the Middle East.

Norwegian victims ‘got what they deserved,’ say some Israeli commenters

Average’s comment: The full and disturbing article with comments can be found at 

http://mondoweiss.net/2011/07/norwegian-victims-got-what-they-deserved-say-some-israeli-commenters.html

by Philip Weiss on July 26, 2011

   

Remember when they kept saying that some Palestinians cheered the 9/11 attacks? Well, JJ Goldberg has a thorough report in the Forward on nasty sentiment throughout Hebrew websites in Israel, Israelis saying Norway got what it deserved because of its pro-Palestinian positions. This is true self-isolation.  Excerpt:

And I do mean nasty: Judging by the comments sections on the main Hebrew websites, the main questions under debate seem to be whether Norwegians deserve any sympathy from Israelis given the country’s pro-Palestinian policies, whether the killer deserves any sympathy given his self-declared intention of fighting Islamic extremism and, perhaps ironically, whether calling attention to this debate is in itself an anti-Israel or anti-Semitic act.
The debate seems to be taking place almost entirely on Hebrew websites. There’s a bit of bile popping up on the English-language Jerusalem Post site as well (for example, there are a handful of choice comments of a now-they’ll-know-what-it-feels-like variety following this Post news article reporting on Israel’s official offer of sympathy and aid). In Hebrew, though, no holds are barred. I’ve translated some of the back-and-forth from the Ynet and Maariv websites below, to give you taste.
The debate exploded aboveground on Saturday in an opinion essay at Ynet (in Hebrew only) by Ziv Lenchner, a left-leaning Tel Aviv artist and one of Ynet’s large, bipartisan stable of columnists. It’s called “Dancing the Hora on Norwegian Blood.” He argues that the comment sections on news websites are a fair barometer of public sentiment (a questionable premise) and that the overwhelming response is schadenfreude, pleasure at Norway’s pain. As I’ll show below, that judgment seems pretty accurate.

    • Chu says:
      Aw, Poor glen. How does a Mormom become an alcoholic? Go figure.
      The sad part is that he’s too dumb to realize what a phony he is.
      • One has to wonder what Beck would say in a debate if he was confronted with pictures of the Jewish Israeli teens bused to the evictions of Bedouin families. Wearing bright colored vests, tasked to remove the household possessions of Bedouin families watching, while standing under armed guard.
        Would he explain away this VERY REAL Israeli policty that REALLY DOES harken back to the days of the “Hitler Youth”? And if so, how would he explain it away?
        I have mentioned this particular Israeli policy in many online debates and discussions, and not one single time has anyone like eee or Witty or Fred dared to offer a justification, or an argument in defense of this policy. Quite simply, no defense exists. This Israeli policy is EVERY BIT as indefensible as Hitler’s youth programs were.
        But, its pointless to project. Fact is, no one will mention this particular Israeli policy to Beck, at least not in a public forum. Even those less fanatic than the feckless asshole Beck are too cowed, too intimidated, to draw comparisons to Israeli youth programs, and Hitler’s strategies for making little piggy racists out of his teeny boppers.
        Yet, cruise on over to the AIPAC website, and do a little digging. Theres no shortage of AIPAC activities for the young amongst us, all designed to further the indictrination of our nation’s youth into a mindset of defending the tribe above all else. God’s chosen ones, and thier “Jewish” state.
        And Beck thinks the Norwegians are cloning “Hitler Youth”?
      • CigarGod says:
        He comes from a culture that is just like him and so he thinks he is normal, and in his culture, God once in awhile grants a faithful follower a third eye. Glen and his followers think Glen has one.
        On alcohol, Little known Mormon history:
        One of the first orders Brigham Young issued was for the planting of a vineyard and the building of a distillery.
    • tree says:
      “Glenn Beck’s comments are ignorant, incorrect and extremely hurtful.”
      Well, that’s Beck in a nutshell. You can apply that to just about everything that Beck says on any subject.
    • Beck: “I mean who sends their kids to a political summer camp?”

      What is the Tea Party summer camp?
      Tampa Liberty School is a weeklong day camp for kids ages 8 to 12. It’s run by the Tampa 912 Project, a Tea Party–affiliated group aligned with Glenn Beck’s 9/12 Project. The camp itself is organized by conservative writer Jeff Lukens, and will “impart the principles of liberty as discovered and implemented by the founders of our country.”
      According to the St. Petersburg Times, those principles include “I believe in God,” and “I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.”

      • American says:
        Who teaches the holocaust to 4th graders? People with an agenda.
        No one in their right mind would, or would allow their 5-6-7 and 8 year olds to be exposed to these books they use. That’s far too traumatizing at that age and should be reserved for high school and college age. In fact so disturbing they issue a warning. Now who in the hell would expose kids to something that they knew was going to be so upsetting it might require professional psychological help afterwards? Totally sick.
        ‘First of all, a caution: Be aware that reading, investigating and talking about the Holocaust may be the first up-close personal and explicit encounter your students may have had with man’s inhumanity to man. The horror is such that some may need professional help after or during this time. Get some resources lined up before you begin.
        link to carolhurst.com
        • Saleema says:
          It is very true. I was shocked and disturbed at age 12. I was in the sixth grade. I had a couple of sleepless nights. I asked my mom many questions.
          My daughter is a very kind, sensitive child. I have told her to hit back if another child hits her and she refuses saying she will pray for them “and inshallah they will become better.” I don’t know where she gets that from because my family doesn’t talk like that. She certainly doesn’t go to the mosque and so she’s not hearing any talk about being extra kind to those that hurt you. But the point I’m trying to make is that if someone of her personality is exposed to the Holocaust at such a young age, it will surely harm them psychologically. I would never expose her to anything so violent until she’s mature enough, or allow any school to do so either. Currently she’s five
        • Taxi says:
          Saleema,
          Your daughter sounds so beautiful and enlightened. At age 5, she’s certainly more advanced than me who is 50! I’m afraid I’m still primordial and my reflex is still to kick the groin and brains of my assailant.
  1. seafoid says:
    And from the comments…
    Haim • 15 hours ago
    Looks like a bunch of mondoweisnicks have taken refuge here.’
    MondoWeis blog isn’t just critical of Israel, the blog publishes outright lies about Jews and about Israel.
    Weiss is an antisemite who doesn’t think of himself as a Jew.
  2. seafoid says:
    The problem for Israel is that the discourse in Hebrew is so far removed from the discourse anywhere else in the West. Tolerance means nothing in Israel.
  3. Dan Crowther says:
    The Beckster seemed to say more or less the same thing ( and in english, well, he’d prob want it called “american”) – i guess those kids were all secret left wing labor nazi’s – yea, im still trying to work that one out too…..
    Someone should hold a candle-light vigil at the Holocaust museum in DC…….
    just so Abe Foxman can call them anti-semitic……
  4. Taxi says:
    Simon Israel interviews a Ugandan survivor of the Utoya massacre:
    link to bcove.me
    Also this Ann Curry interview with a 16 year old survivor:
    link to hulu.com
  5. Taxi says:
    Here’s some zionism-shooter connections: in shooter’s own words:
    link to angryarab.net
  6. annie says:
    yossi gurvitz covered this earlier yesterday in a blog post titled This sick glee in the face of a terrorist attack
    the commenters raked him over the coals. kudos to goldberg for covering it.
  7. annie says:
    the first comment in the forward article asserts the comment section of a norweigian article reflect a similar vileness against israelis. to which the next comment states:

    Whatever bunch of morons supplied your ammunition probably don’t know a single norwegian word.
    A Norwegian person commenting on an article written by a major Norwegian news organization would not reply in english.
    Also note that the english comments were all added a whole three days after the norwegian ones. My guess is some online forum filled with what looks like paranoid schizos got a hold of the article and started posting away.
    The actual Norwegian comments are mostly polite, and though the debate is divided, the comments are nowhere near as stupid as the english ones. Many of them defend Israel’s position, pointing out, among other things, the amount of terrorism the nation faces each year.
    The most inflammatory Norwegian comment I could find referred to the Israeli soldiers with automatic machine guns bravely defending themselves against palestinian kids throwing rocks. Which, to be fair, probably has happened.

    three days? sounds like a set up.

  8. Chu says:
    Brevik was a Nordic loser. He found an ideology to support his misery.
  9. “This is true self-isolation”
    Phil, only if 90% of the world read your piece or the one by Goldberg. Unfortunately, 90% read Murdochs publications etc.
    That should not mean that what all of us do here is fruitless, but that it’s still a VERY long way to go.
  10. Related, from Kates roundup:
    This sick glee in the face of a terrorist attack / Yossi Gurvitz
    link to 972mag.com
  11. MHughes976 says:
    I sometimes feel, when I think about the Palestine tragedy, of the James Thurber character for whom the road was long and getting longer. The night was dark and getting darker. But that doesn’t mean that there will be no morning.
  12. Cliff says:
    The comments of the JJ Goldberg article prove the point. It boils down to intense tribalism and narcissism. Zionist Jews are unable to get over themselves.
    • CigarGod says:
      Becoming proficient in using one’s ideological programming is like any other acquired skill. It feels good to take it out for a spin, and even better if you are on the track with a bunch of friends, all trying to out-due the others.
      I hate using the racing skill analogy, but it’s all I’ve got right now.
  13. Chaos4700 says:
    Anyone else totally unshocked that no Zionists whatsoever will touch this thread?
  14. American says:
    link to walt.foreignpolicy.com
    Walt has the whole ball of Islam hysterica wax covered and exactly right.

Oslo Suspect Wrote of Fear of Islam and Plan for War

By and
OSLO — The Norwegian man charged Saturday with a pair of attacks in Oslo that killed at least 92 people left behind a detailed manifesto outlining his preparations and calling for a Christian war to defend Europe against the threat of Muslim domination, according to Norwegian and American officials familiar with the investigation.
As stunned Norwegians grappled with the deadliest attack in the country since World War II, a portrait began to emerge of the suspect, Anders Behring Breivik, 32. The police identified him as a right-wing fundamentalist Christian, while acquaintances described him as a gun-loving Norwegian obsessed with what he saw as the threats of multiculturalism and Muslim immigration.
“We are not sure whether he was alone or had help,” a police official, Roger Andresen, said at a televised news conference. “What we know is that he is right wing and a Christian fundamentalist.”
In the 1,500-page manifesto, posted on the Web hours before the attacks, Mr. Breivik recorded a day-by-day diary of months of planning for the attacks, and claimed to be part of a small group that intended to “seize political and military control of Western European countries and implement a cultural conservative political agenda.”
He predicted a conflagration that would kill or injure more than a million people, adding, “The time for dialogue is over. We gave peace a chance. The time for armed resistance has come.”
The manifesto was signed Andrew Berwick, an Anglicized version of his name. A former American government official briefed on the case said investigators believed the manifesto was Mr. Breivik’s work.
The manifesto, entitled “2083: A European Declaration of Independence,” equates liberalism and multiculturalism with “cultural Marxism,” which the document says is destroying European Christian civilization.
The document also describes a secret meeting in London in April 2002 to reconstitute the Knights Templar, a Crusader military order. It says the meeting was attended by nine representatives of eight European countries, evidently including Mr. Breivik, with an additional three members unable to attend, including a “European-American.”
The document does not name the attendees or say whether they were aware of Mr. Breivik’s planned attacks, though investigators presumably will now try to determine if the people exist and what their connection is to Mr. Breivik.
Thomas Hegghammer, a terrorism specialist at the Norwegian Defense Research Establishment, said the manifesto bears an eerie resemblance to those of Osama bin Laden and other Al Qaeda leaders, though from a Christian rather than a Muslim point of view. Like Mr. Breivik’s manuscript, the major Qaeda declarations have detailed accounts of the Crusades, a pronounced sense of historical grievance and calls for apocalyptic warfare to defeat the religious and cultural enemy.
“It seems to be an attempt to mirror Al Qaeda, exactly in reverse,” Mr. Hegghammer said.
Mr. Breivik was also believed to have posted a video on Friday summarizing his arguments. In its closing moments, the video depicts Mr. Breivik in military uniform, holding assault weapons. Rarely has a mass murder suspect left so detailed an account of his activities. The manifesto describes in detail his purchase of chemicals, his sometimes ham-handed experiments making explosives and his first successful test detonation of a bomb in a remote location on June 13.
He intersperses the account of bomb-making with details of his television-watching, including the Eurovision music contest and the American police drama “The Shield.”
The manifesto ends with a chilling signoff: “I believe this will be my last entry. It is now Fri July 22nd, 12.51.”
Indeed, the operation appeared to have been extremely well planned.
According to the police, Mr. Breivik first drew security services to central Oslo when he exploded a car bomb outside a 17-story government office building, killing at least seven people.
Then he took a public ferry to Utoya Island, where he carried out a remarkably meticulous attack on Norway’s current and future political elite. Dressed as a police officer, he announced that he had come to check on the security of the young people who were attending a political summer camp there, many of them the children of members of the governing Labor Party.
He gathered the campers together and for some 90 hellish minutes he coolly and methodically shot them, hunting down those who fled. At least 85 people, some as young as 16, were killed.
The police said Saturday evening that they expected the death toll to climb. There were still bodies in the bombed government buildings in Oslo, and at least four people missing on Utoya.
The police also said that unexploded munitions were still in some downtown Oslo buildings, and they had not ruled out the possibility that Mr. Breivik had accomplices.
He was equipped, the police said, with an automatic rifle and a handgun; when the police finally got to the island — about 40 minutes after they were called, the police said — Mr. Breivik surrendered.
The police also said he had registered a farm in Rena, in eastern Norway, which allowed him to order a large quantity of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, an ingredient that can be used to make explosives. The authorities were investigating whether the chemical had been used in the bombing.
Besides the manifesto, Mr. Breivik left other hints of his motives.
A Facebook page and Twitter account were set up under his name days before the rampage. The Facebook page cites philosophers like Machiavelli, Kant and John Stuart Mill.
His lone Twitter post, while not calling for violence, paraphrased Mill — “One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests” — suggesting what he saw as his ability to act.
Those postings, along with what was previously known about Mr. Breivik publicly, aligned with but hardly predicted the bloody rampage he would undertake on Friday.
Before then, he had been a member of the right-wing Progress Party, which began as an antitax protest and has been stridently anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim.
Joran Kallmyr, a member of the party who is now Oslo’s vice mayor for transportation, said he met Mr. Breivik several times in 2002 and 2003 at local party meetings. “He was very quiet, almost a little bit shy,” Mr. Kallmyr said. “But he was a normal person with good behavior. He never shared any extreme thoughts or speech with us. There was absolutely no reason to expect that he could do something like this. We’re very shocked.”
Mr. Breivik quit the party in 2006, apparently disappointed by the party’s move toward the center.
“He didn’t like our politics, I guess, and moved on,” Mr. Kallmyr said.
His Internet posts also indicated contempt for the Conservative Party, which he accused of having given up the battle against multiculturalism.
But on Friday he directed his firepower at the center-left Labor Party, which leads the coalition government.
“Breivik feels that multiculturalism is destroying the society and that the enforcing authority is the prime minister and the Labor Party, the lead party of contemporary Norwegian politics,” said Anders Romarheim, a fellow at the Norwegian Institute for Defense Studies.
But the attacks, along with what appear to have been years of preparation for them, raised questions about whether the Norwegian security authorities, concentrating on threats of Islamic terrorism, had overlooked the threat from the anti-Islamic right.
“This is the Norwegian equivalent to Timothy McVeigh,” the right-wing American who bombed a federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995, said Marcus Buck, a political scientist at the University of Tromso in northern Norway. “This is right-wing domestic terrorism, and the big question is to what extent Norwegian agencies have diverted their attention from what they knew decades ago was the biggest threat” to focus instead on Islamic militants.
The unclassified versions of the last three Norwegian Police Security Service reports assessing national threats all played down any threat by right-wing and nationalist extremists. Instead, the reports emphasized the dangers posed by radical Islam, groups opposed to Norway’s military involvement in Afghanistan and Libya, and others.
The 2011 report, released early this year, concluded that “the far-right and far-left extremist communities will not represent a serious threat to Norwegian society.”
Even after the attacks, that appeared to be the official position.
“Compared to other countries I wouldn’t say we have a big problem with right-wing extremists in Norway,” Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg told reporters at a news conference on Saturday. “But we have had some groups, we have followed them before, and our police is aware that there are some right-wing groups.”
Even if the authorities had focused on right-wing groups, it was unlikely that they would have noticed Mr. Breivik.
Kari Helene Partapuoli, director of the Norwegian Center Against Racism, said Mr. Breivik did not belong to any violent neo-Nazi groups that she was aware of, and his Internet postings, before those of last week, did not espouse violence.
“The distance between the words spoken and the acts that he carried out is gigantic, because what he did is in a different league of what the debates have to do about,” she said.
Arild Groven, secretary general of the Norwegian Shooting Association, a sports group, confirmed that Mr. Breivik had belonged to Oslo Pistolklubb, one of the 520 clubs in the association.
“We all read and watch the news about the shootings in the United States,” Mr. Groven said. “But it doesn’t happen here.”
Mr. Romarheim said in some ways the homegrown nature of the attack made it harder for Norwegians to accept. “With 9/11 in America, people could ask, ‘Who are they?’ and could pour their rage out on someone else,” he said. “But we can’t disavow this person, he’s one of us.”

Absurd coverage of the Norwegian tragedy

Madison Ruppert, Contributing Writer
Activist Post

As the days go by following the horrific slaughter at Utoya and the bombing in Oslo, the information has only become more confused and self-contradictory.

The media began with the baseless conjecture that it was an al Qaeda-affiliated group behind the attacks. The only evidence presented was the fact that threats had been made against Norway in the past and of course the highly reliable source that is jihadist forums.

Wired’s Danger Room ran with a story that only proposed Muslim terrorists as the culprits. Despite the same amount of evidence pointing to other interests behind the attack, they decided to run with the Islamophobic current that is all-too-common in the Western world.

I find it quite interesting that, before Breivik claimed responsibility, the perpetrators were being framed as terrorists. Suddenly, once it was established that the individual (or possibly individuals) responsible was a blond haired, blue-eyed Norwegian “extremist”.

Why does he not get slapped with the terrorist label? How is this act of terror any different from every other? Does Breivik’s ideological and religious leaning somehow exclude him from the label of terrorist?

An update to the above linked Wired article points out that their baseless conclusions and accusations should “teach all of us in the media – this blog included – a lesson about immediately jumping to ‘jihad!’ conclusions.”

Indeed this is quite true, but only if they had the ability to think rationally outside of the propagandized and demonized pseudo-Islamic extremists that the West loves to use as a bogeyman whenever possible.

The Israeli press has been covering the outrage in the Muslim world against the completely baseless accusations leveled against them, while deriding people who find a link between Mossad interests and the attacks on the pro-Palestinian Norwegian party’s youth camp.

The above-linked article claims that “many Arab and Muslim web surfers claimed that it was Israel who was responsible.”

Interesting how the only people who could find a link between Israel and these attacks are Muslim. I’m a bit surprised they didn’t throw in that the only others were neo-Nazis or some such ridiculousness.

I know this is hard for a lot of people to grasp, but it isn’t a racial or religiously based ideology to deplore the murder of innocent people along with covert, illegal activities in sovereign nations.

Unfortunately, the state of Israel has carried out and continues the systematic murder of Palestinians along with other highly illegal and immoral activities abroad.

The Jewish people have nothing to do with this, and to imply such is fallacious. I love every single person of every religion and ideology equally, which means that an Israeli who kills a Palestinian is just as deplorable as a Palestinian who kills an Israeli. This has nothing to do with ethnicity or religion; it has to do with murder.

Sure, some Muslims might dislike or even hate Jews. Imbecilic racists exist in every religious group and political party. Does this mean that every person who happens to be a part of that religious group or party holds the same ideas? No, and to suppose such is absurd.

However, the Israeli press seems to lump every single Arab and Muslim web surfer into a group of people who attempt to blame Israel and Zionists whenever humanly possible. They do mention two other theories that accuse the CIA and Muammar Gaddafi, although the focus is clearly on those supposedly Muslim individuals who think Israel could be behind the attacks.

Of course, the Organization of the Islamic Conference, made up of 58 nations, released a statement in condemnation of the event, labeling it a “terrorist attack.” This very important point is buried in the last paragraph of the article.

The warped view of some of the Israeli press that Muslims and Islam in general are a threat to Israel and all Jewish people is mirrored in the delusional view held by Breivik and the Norwegian Progressive Party.

Both Breivik and the Progress Party peddle a baseless theory that alleges there is a massive covert conspiracy organized by the Muslim world to subvert and “Islamize” the nations of Europe.

The level of paranoia surrounding this issue in Europe and the United States is somewhat frightening, especially given the growing popularity of this conspiracy theory.

One interesting point to take note of is the targets of the most deadly attack: pro-Palestinian youth activists.

This has been conspicuously absent in media reports and when they do cover the “anti-immigrant” policies of the Progress Party, they usually leave it at that without pointing out that the entire basis of their policy is that they believe Muslims are attempting to take over Europe.

While the mainstream media has pushed the reports of a second gunman out of the narrative, they are now including the claims from Breivik that there are two other associated cells prepared to conduct terrorist attacks.

We cannot know if this is true as it has not been verified in any way, as of yet. Breivik has boasted that more blood will be spilled, but is this just fear mongering or a legitimate threat?

Strangely, Anders Behring Breivik pleaded not guilty even though he confessed to the brutal attacks. Breivik was also incredibly calm, according to the prosecutor Christian Hatlo.

Breivik is already attempting to create a media circus around his trial, as if his laughable “manifesto” wasn’t giving his ludicrous theories enough attention. He began by attempting to speak publicly about why he carried out the attacks in court.

Thankfully the judge, Kim Heger, realized this and closed the trial in order to strip Breivik of his attempt to bring publicity to his cause.

There is some noteworthy evidence supporting Breivik’s claim that there are two affiliated cells ready to attack, or at least that there were other individuals involved in the attacks.

Not only were there eyewitness reports of shots coming from two places on the island of Utoya during the massacre, but it has also been reported that Breivik was with an accomplice when he attempted to buy bulk fertilizer earlier this year.

In the wake of the attacks Norwegian police officers detained several people in a raid who were suspected of being linked to the attack.

All of these individuals were released and determined to be completely unrelated.

I sincerely hope that the Norwegian law enforcement are able to track down the other individuals who were involved in this attack, as it seems that there were indeed other persons who collaborated in this brutal act of terrorism.

However, if this operation is nearly as advanced as it is being made out to be, this might be somewhat difficult.

One very strange fact that I must note is that the police knew Breivik’s name before they actually made the arrest. I can’t be sure what to make of this, but not including this important fact would be quite detrimental, in my opinion.

With all of these confusing and somewhat conflicting facts, some people are jumping to conclusions that I cannot find any support for.

One is a former State Department official and author interviewed several times by Alex Jones for his radio show, Dr. Steve Pieczenik, who has speculated that this was actually a neo-Nazi influenced action with help from the Swedes.

I fail to understand why a neo-Nazi would be part of a rabidly pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian party, and why he would attack a group of people who were in support of the end of Israel’s hegemonic control over Palestine.

Pieczenik is also promoting the idea that people will find themselves relating to Breivik due to the lack of jobs and other factors. I also find this to be completely baseless. Maybe I am just not paranoid enough to grab onto a “sneak Islamization” conspiracy theory that can justify the murder of young people who support the rights of Palestinians.

If anyone holds this belief, I would like to hear from you especially.

Another strange and noteworthy factor is Breivik’s manifesto. Not only are large sections plagiarized from the Unabomber’s rambling manifesto; some parts make absolutely no sense, at least to me.

People have been characterizing Breivik as a calculating and completely sane terrorist. I’m not quite sure how a detailed description of sugar beet production and benefits is indicative of a sane and calculating individual.

It is almost as if he thought he didn’t have enough material and started rambling about absolutely nonsensical topics. Go to page 1502 in the above-linked PDF of his manifesto if you want to see an example of the illogical inclusion of seemingly unrelated facts and figures.

Personally, I refuse to jump to conclusions at this point. There are so many facts that need to be addressed and far too many questions that are left unanswered. Jumping to conclusions at this point is hasty, to say the least.

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It is a shame, a damn shame and a pity that Arab News, which has used phrases like “Islamic Extremist”, “Muslim Terrorist”, and “Islamic Terrorist”, will go to great lengths not to use the a similar charactrization for Anders Brevik. Let me know when Arab News calls a spade a spade and use the appropriate labeling for this Brevik. He has the modus operandi, of a terrorist, he uses the justifications of the Christian faith and Western culture. Why THE HELL won’t Arab News call him for what he is? He is a CHRISTIAN TERRORIST!

PEPE ESCOBAR: AL-QAEDA’S CHRISTIAN MIRROR

By Pepe Escobar
July 26, 2011
Imagine if Anders Behring Breivik, the 32-year-old pale, blond, blue-eyed, 100% Norwegian, gun-crazy ultra right-wing Christian fundamentalist responsible for the car bombing in Oslo and the meticulous targeted assassinations at the island of Utoya that killed 93 people, was a Muslim immigrant.

One does not even have to imagine it ~ as the concentric Western circles of the Islamophobia industry immediately attributed the massacre in Norway to “al-Qaeda”, until facts got in the way.

Wait a minute. “Targeted assassinations?” It had to cross the killer’s mind that if the Barack Obama administration could do it ~ in AfPak, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, all in the name of Western civilization ~ there’s nothing to prevent a cool Scandinavian from exercising the same rights on his own soil.

The overlapping strands of al-Qaeda ideology can be examined in detail in volumes such as Al-Qaeda in Its Own Words, edited by Gilles Kepel and Jean-Pierre Milelli, and published in English by Harvard University Press. Lone Breivik also concocted his own hefty, 1,500-page hate manifesto [1], titled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, where he equally thrashes liberalism, multiculturalism and “cultural Marxism”, which are allegedly destroying European Christian civilization.

As much as al-Qaeda ~ under the ideological guidance of now leader Dr Ayman al-Zawahiri ~ embarked on defensive (and occasionally offensive) jihad against Christians and Jews, Breivik calls for no less than a Christian jihad to defend Europe from yet another Muslim invasion.

THE RETURN OF THE CHRISTIAN CRUSADERS

What reveals that Breivik is no lone freak is that the ideology behind the manifesto overwhelmingly condemns not only Islam per se, Muslim immigration in Europe, and multiculturalism, but also all the neo-Nazi, racial supremacist rants against these “evils”.

Breivik, the mass bomber who loves crappy Eurovision songs and the US cop show The Shield, and owns legitimate licenses for a Glock pistol, an automatic rifle and a shotgun is a typical convert of the new, slightly more sophisticated pan-European ultra-right narrative ~ according to which the battle for the soul of Europe will be fought on cultural grounds.

After a brief visit to Denmark and southern Sweden in the autumn of 2010, I had already touched on these broader themes in Letter from Islamophobistan (Asia Times Online, October 22, 2010).

Breivik goes one step ahead by weaponizing the new thinking ~ according to which it’s not a question of Muslims being biologically inferior to the Christian West; the problem is the tenets of Islam are absolutely incompatible with the West.

It’s all about culture. “They” don’t share “our values” and our way of life. As a shrewd public relations move, this culturalist explanation is bound to attract even moderate Europeans.

Breivik and his ilk blame Western parliamentary democracy as a whole ~ political correctness included ~ for allowing Muslims in Europe to establish themselves as Trojan horses. Everything and everyone is a threat ~ from al-Qaeda to the bureaucratic European Union (EU) and the multicultural United Nations (UN). Breivik and his kind are Huntingtonesque all the way ~ fearing a clash of civilizations right at home.

No wonder the next logical step was for Breivik to become a modern-day version of the Knights Templars extolled in his rambling manifesto ~ and thus set an example. The Knights’ agenda; to “seize political and military control of Western European countries and implement a cultural conservative political agenda”.

“Al-Qaeda” ~ or the nebula of franchises and copycats commonly bundled as “al-Qaeda” ~ does not have the resources to attack Europe, and this is not the priority anyway; the priority is AfPak, Central Asia and India, as detailed by al-Qaeda’s military commander Ilyas Kashmiri. But the priority of Christian fundamentalist terror is definitely Europe. And the attacks will come via loners such as Breivik as well as organized groups.

Western progressives must be on red alert. Taboos will have to be smashed ~ especially by identifying the contorted but most of the time crude strategies employed by ultra-right Christian fundamentalism and Zionists to foment

ISLAMOPHOBIA IN THE WEST.

For instance, both Islamophobes and hardcore Zionists see the Israeli subjugation of Palestine as Israel defending itself in a clash of civilizations. Model disciple Breivik hails notorious American Islamophobes such as Pam Geller and Daniel Pipes as much as he abhors Norwegian support for an independent, sovereign Palestinian state.

Breivik wrote, “It’s very hypocritical to treat Muslims, Nazis and Marxists different from each other. They are all supporters of hate-ideologies. Not all Muslims, Nazis and Marxists are conservative; most of them are moderate. 

But does it matter?”

It doesn’t;

fascism is an equal-opportunity seducer.
There will be blood ~ a lot more blood,
as Europe confronts its own heart of darkness.
Beware the return
~ en masse ~
of the pale blue-eyed Christian crusader.

NOTE
1.
See key extracts here

Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War (Nimble Books, 2007) and Red Zone Blues: a snapshot of Baghdad during the surge. His new book, just out, is Obama does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009).

He may be reached at pepeasia@yahoo.com.

New York Times Caught Publishing CIA Propaganda On Norway Attacks

The New York Times published a bogus claim of responsibility for the Norway attack. According to NYT, the attack was committed by ‘Ansar al-Jihad al-
Alami’ [Supporters of Global Jihad] which no one heard of before. Once a pro-Israel Christian terrorist was arrested, the NYT quietly removed this highlighted
part from its report. Of course, no apologies and no accountability for the broadsheets that cooperate with CIA in promoting wars. 
 
 
New York Times Caught Publishing CIA Propaganda On Norway Attack
An American investigative journalist uncovers how the New York Times tried to link the Norway attack to a Muslim group that doesn’t exist and then how it quietly pulled the story later from its online edition, without offering an apology. Alexander Higgins, also uncovers how two other news outlets, one American and the other British, continued to demonize Muslims hours after a Christian extremist was arrested.
SPECIAL REPORT | Monday | 25 July 2011
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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan—In the first few hours after a Christian terrorist killed tens of Norwegians, the New York Times published a report claiming an unknown Muslim group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Aalami [Supporters of Global Jihad] has claimed responsibility for the attack.
Within a couple of hours of the attack, an online report warned that CIA and its broadsheets in the US media will exploit the attack to garner European support for the failing Afghan war.
This is exactly what many CIA-affiliated websites and ‘translation companies’ have been doing for the past decade, translating claims of responsibility after every terrorist attack anywhere in the world.
As expected, the New York Times published this claim quoting an unknown American analyst who said he saw the claim of responsibility on a website in Arabic and that he translated it into English.
The truth is that an ordinary discussion forum in Arabic, like millions of similar online forums, published what appears to be a celebratory note on the Norway attack arguing the attack was punishment for all the wrong done in Libya and Afghanistan, the two wars where Norway is a participant by default because of its NATO membership.
But nowhere in the Arabic was text there a claim of responsibility. Also, the person who posted the text in Arabic used a fake name.
So a claim by an unknown group that no one heard of, using a fake profile on a discussion forum? Any real journalist would ignore it.
But not the New York Times, which is famous for publishing absolute lies drafted by the CIA. The paper spent the whole of 2002 publishing sophisticated ‘news reports’ about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction complete with expert illustrations of alleged Iraqi weapons. One of NYT’s top reporters, Judith Miller, was discredited because she ran CIA-planted stories under her byline and went to jail in another case of harassment of a US diplomat and his wife who exposed US government lies on Iraq.

UK’s The Sun knew it was al-Qaeda before anyone else! [CLICK PHOTO TO ENLARGE]
HOW NEW YORK TIMES
WAS CAUGHT
The credibility of the mainstream US media and its links to US government and the CIA is an open secret. The Pakistani military has accused the New York Times of running a ‘slander campaign’ against Pakistan, its military and its spy agency at CIA’s behest.
Even the Norwegian media was cautious when the NYT came up with this claim of responsibility. Norway TV did its own translation of the text and discovered there was no explicit claim of responsibility for the attack.
The investigative work that reveals NYT’s professional dishonesty was done by Alexander Higgins, and published on his blog under the telling title, Corporate Media Runs False CIA Story Stating Muslim Group Claimed Responsibility For Oslo  .
Here we reproduce images from Mr. Higgins blog along with their original captions that tell the full story.
[CLICK HERE to see how Fox News misled American viewers. Some parts of the US media were desperate to implicate Muslims. Pro-war lobbies want any excuse to continue a policy of deception and wars.]
CIA Runs B.S. Story That Muslim Group Claimed Responsibility For Oslo Bombings – Highlighted. Text & image courtesy of Alexander Higgins’ blog. [CLICK PHOTO TO ENLARGE]
 
SHOOTER IS PRO-ISRAEL AND IMPRESSED
BY ANTI-MUSLIM AMERICANS
Mr. Higgins makes several interesting observations in his report.
The first is that Norway is a Muslim-friendly country that has not followed the American policy of harassing its Muslim community. It is also a supporter of Palestinian rights and an independent Palestinian state. The Norwegian government has also formally apologized for a couple of local newspapers that reprinted cartoons offensive to Muslims. So unlike the propaganda in American media, Muslims have little reason to attack Norway.
The second important observation is that while the American media continues to emphasize that the Christian extremist is anti-Islam, more important is the fact that he is pro-Israel and a big admirer of anti-Islam writers and bloggers in the US.
This last point is very critical because it confirms our longstanding argument that the United States government and in particular its main intelligence service the CIA are promoting anti-Muslim feelings inside the US and worldwide to continue their interventions in other countries in the name of war on terror. 
The anti-Pakistan propaganda worldwide is also the work of CIA and other elements of the US government. They have been using the same twisted methods of demonizing Pakistan that have come to the surface now after the Norway attacks.
Jihadica, one of many websites suspected of links to CIA that have sprung up to scare the Americans of Islam
and secure their support for endless wars in the Middle East. Photo courtesy of Alexander Higgins’ blog
[CLICK PHOTO TO ENLARGE]