IS PAKISTAN NEXT?
“I see the whole thing as a mess, and I think that we are going to be in Pakistan,” he said. “I think that’s the next occupation and I fear it. I think it’s ridiculous, and I think our foreign policy is such that we don’t need to be doing this.”
U.S. Presidential candidate Ron Paul Predicts US Military Involvement in Pakistan
NEW YORK, May 19 2011 —
Congressman Ron Paul sees no way out of the war in Afghanistan
In fact, the Texas Republican, who announced his candidacy for president last week, believes the U.S. is primed to send forces into Pakistan. Appearing on MSNBC’s Morning Joe Wednesday, Paul, who has fervently opposed U.S. military involvement in both Iraq and Afghanistan, said, “I think that we are going to be in Pakistan. I think that’s the next occupation and I fear it. I think it’s ridiculous, and I think our foreign policy is such that we don’t need to be doing this.”
Paul said the Obama administration telegraphed its future intentions with the successful raid to get Osama bin Laden, who was living undetected in Abbottabad, Pakistan for the past several years. That mission and other actions, including sending unmanned drones to kill al Qaeda and Taliban members in Pakistan’s northwestern region, are tantamount to creating civil war and violating our ally’s national security, according to Paul, who has promised to withdraw all American forces out of Afghanistan if elected president
US will invade Pakistan
Ron Paul fears
By Jordan Fabian – 18-May-2011
GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul is worried the U.S. could invade Pakistan after Osama bin Laden’s death. “I am absolutely afraid we will be in Pakistan trying to occupy that country,” Paul, a congressman from Texas and a critic of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, said Wednesday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”
Paul acknowledged he has no solid evidence that the U.S. has plans to “invade” Pakistan, but described his observation as being based on American foreign policy over the past two or three decades, and its “unintended consequences.” Paul implied that the Obama administration’s apparent mistrust of Pakistan’s ability to fight terrorism could lead to a full-scale invasion.
While most politicians in both parties have celebrated the mission ordered by President Obama to enter Pakistan and take out bin Laden, Paul has been a critic. He has said he would not have auhorized the mission to kill bin Laden, because of problems with international law. Paul also has said that the killing of bin Laden should convince the U.S. to bring home its troops from Afghanistan.
Ron Paul: We’ll occupy Pakistan, too
The helicopters that landed in Abbottabad won’t be the last to put American troops on the ground in Pakistan, says Rep. Ron Paul. Calling the relationship between the United States and Pakistan an “impossible situation,” the Texas congressman and Republican presidential candidate said Wednesday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that he sees an occupation of even greater scale than Afghanistan on the horizon.
“I see the whole thing as a mess, and I think that we are going to be in Pakistan,” he said. “I think that’s the next occupation and I fear it. I think it’s ridiculous, and I think our foreign policy is such that we don’t need to be doing this.” And Paul doesn’t have high hopes for that mission, if it happens. “It will probably be very unsuccessful,” he said. Paul, a noted non-interventionist, said the United States has created a civil war in Pakistan and violated the country’s national security. He also addressed the idea of conspiracy theories popping up about bin Laden and the raid.
“How many stories have we heard already about the killing of bin Laden,” Paul asked. “I mean, people are supposed to know what their government’s doing. If you ask me exactly what happened, I have no idea because I’ve heard so many stories.” Asked by “Morning Joe” co-host Mika Brzezinski if he had just floated a conspiracy theory himself, Paul flatly said “no.”
“I think the inept policy invites people to think about conspiracy theories because we don’t get all the evidence,” Paul said. “I think there will be plenty of conspiracy theories because we’re presenting facts that we’re changing on almost a daily basis.”
Ron Paul: US-Pakistan relations an “Impossible Situation”
May 18th, 2011
Texas Representative and 2012 Presidential candidate Ron Paul declared Wednesday morning that he considered the relationship between the United State and Pakistan to be an “impossible situation”, and that occupation of the country was one of his fears looking at the next move for the United States after the discovery of Bin Laden’s hide out in the city of Abbottad for the major part of the last decade.
During an interview with MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” Paul called the increased tensions between Pakistan and the US “a mess” and said that in the event of an occupation attempt he believed it would be “unsuccessful”. Paul also questioned the number of “stories” he had heard in relation to the raid on Bin Laden’s compound that resulted in the death of the terrorist mastermind and financier. When asked if he was contributing to the number of “conspiracy theories” surrounding the event, Paul claimed that he was of the belief that the public should know exactly how their government was operating, and President Obama’s “inept policy” had proliferated such responses to the account of Bin Laden’s death, commenting that the “facts” given to the media by officials were “changing daily”.
In a related story, Minnesota Representative Michele Bachmann, a member of the House Intelligence Committee was part of a group of politicians allowed to view the photos of Bin Laden’s corpse last week in a visit to the CIA offices, and tweeted she was indeed “convinced we got our man”. Paul, who has long touted his anti-intervention stances when it comes to foreign policy, has thrust much of his campaigns spotlight upon the issue of foreign aid to the country, since the raid that killed Bin Laden nearly two weeks ago.
The United States has invested approximately $20 billion in the country, where reportedly almost half of that amount has gone towards “reimbursement” for Pakistan’s military actions supporting our war against terror. Pakistani leadership has repeatedly claimed that they were not aware of Bin Laden’s presence inside the country, and have expressed outrage over the White House’s decision to go ahead with the compound raid without alerting their government. Paul also recently opposed the raid itself, saying that it was not a move that he would have made, had he been President in the aftermath of the 2001 terrorist attacks in New York City.
Ron Paul: ‘US plans to occupy Pakistan’
May 19, 2011
United States Presidential Candidate and Congressman Ron Paul
A Republican congressman says he fears the US could invade Pakistan, as the controversy over the alleged killing of Osama bin Laden frays ties between the two countries. In an interview with MSNBC on Wednesday, 2012 presidential candidate Ron Paul labeled the current relations between Washington and Islamabad as an “impossible situation” and expressed concerns that the US may seek occupation of Pakistan after the discovery of al-Qaeda chief in the country’s soil, Politico reported.
“I see the whole thing as a mess, and I think that we are going to be in Pakistan,” the Texas Republican said. “I am absolutely afraid we will be in Pakistan trying to occupy that country.” He went on to describe his observation as being based on American foreign policy over the past two or three decades, adding that any such move this time in Pakistan will have “unintended consequences.” “It will probably be very unsuccessful,” added the congressman, who is also a critic of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Elsewhere in his remarks, Paul called into question the number of stories surrounding the raid on bin Laden’s alleged compound in the city of Abbottabad, and urged the administration of US President Barack Obama to come clean about its operations at a time when the information fed to the media is changing on a daily basis. “How many stories have we heard already about the killing of bin Laden,” he questioned. “I mean, people are supposed to know what their government’s doing. If you ask me exactly what happened, I have no idea because I’ve heard so many stories.”
The US lawmaker also stated that he would not have given the green light to the mission to kill bin Laden, because of problems with international law, and accused the US administration of violating Pakistan’s national security. Obama announced on May 1 that US forces conducted a military operation in Pakistan without the knowledge of the host country to kill what the US government describes as the ‘most wanted man’ in the world in his compound near the capital city of Islamabad.
Observers ask why the US did not allow for an official identification of bin Laden’s body through a DNA testing before permanently disposing it while a number of former US military officers as well as some Pakistani officials have already asserted that bin Laden was killed during the early stages of the US-led invasion of Afghanistan.
Many Pakistani military and intelligence officials argue that the US falsely claims that bin Laden has been killed as part of a wider scheme to invade the country.
Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich want US Troops Pulled From Pakistan
By Julian E. Barnes, JULY 23, 2010,
Reps. Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul are teaming up to force a debate on the House floor next week aimed at compelling the Obama administration to pull U.S. military forces from Pakistan.
- Reps. Dennis Kucinich (D., Ohio) and Ron Paul (R., Texas) at a news conference on June 16, 2005, to announce bipartisan legislation calling on President George W. Bush to set a plan for beginning phase-out of U.S. troops in Iraq. (Photo by Joe Raedle/Getty Images)
There are about 200 military personnel in Pakistan, and up to 120 are assigned to train the Pakistani military in the volatile tribal areas along the border with Afghanistan. The Wall Street Journal reported this week that U.S. special operations forces were now accompanying members of the Pakistan military’s Frontier Corps on humanitarian missions.
Kucinich, a liberal Ohio Democrat, said he decided to introduce the resolution after reading the Journal article. Citing the War Powers Act, Kucinich said the Obama administration has failed to properly notify Congress about the U.S. forces in Pakistan.
Congressional leaders would like to avoid a debate on the U.S. presence in Pakistan. But by introducing a privileged resolution, Kucinich was able to force the House leadership to give him time on the floor along with Paul, a Texas Republican who has opposed the war in Afghanistan. The resolution would require the Obama administration to pull U.S. military trainers out of Pakistan by the end of the year.
Earlier this year, Kucinich forced a similar debate on a resolution to withdraw from Afghanistan. That resolution was easily voted down. “Look at the history of U.S. military involvement; we became enmeshed in a war against Vietnam with advisers leading the way,” Kucinich said. “Mr. Paul and I are seeking to nip in the bud an expansion of U.S. ground presence in Pakistan.”
Ron Paul: Obama Is Preparing for Perpetual War
Congressman addresses warmongers, directly asks Gates, Clinton if they support Bush doctrine of “preventive war”
Dec 3, 2009
In comments before the House and during a televised interview yesterday, Congressman Ron Paul pointed out that with the decision to increase troop presence in Afghanistan and into Pakistan, president Obama is preparing to continue on the path of “perpetual war for perpetual peace”.
“I think it’s a bit misleading.” The Congressman told Fox Business, following Obama’s speech to the nation last night. “I think Obama is actually preparing us for perpetual war. He’s been warning in that speech and elsewhere that we will be going into Pakistan. The idea that we’re going to bring our troops home eventually is just not so.” Paul added.
“There’s no way that he’s going to be able to pay for this. This is going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars, and we don’t have the money and it’s going to bring us down if we don’t stop it.” The Congressman continued. “All wars are paid for through inflation, this will just put more pressure on the Fed to create more money, because I don’t believe it would help us one bit to tax the people to pay for the war, they’ll try to, but that would be devastating to the economy.”
In response to charges of advocating a policy of cut and run in Afghanistan, the Congressman pointed out that the Taliban were previously allies, and also that according to the U.S. army’s own reports there are only a total of 100 Al Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan. “We’re following this precept of perpetual war for perpetual peace, and to me it’s perpetual bankruptcy.” Paul said. “They claim they’re not nation building, they claim we’re in there for national security, to destroy Al Qaeda, but our very presence is the motivation for people to join Al Qaeda or the Taliban.”
“How many more people have to die just for us to save face?” The Congressman asked. “The strength that we need is a president who finally resists the pressure by the special interests, the military industrial complex, the bankers and all the people who want these wars.” Paul said.
Earlier in the day, during a a joint hearing on Afghanistan following Obama’s speech, The Congressman had stern words for Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. “I wish I could promise you an eloquent statement where I could convert all of you to a non-interventionist foreign policy and a policy where we’re not nation building.” Paul commented.
“I wish that I could come up with some profound questions for the panel so that I could point out the inconsistencies not of the current foreign policy, but of the foreign policy that has been going on for quite a few decades. But all I can think about are some terms that come to mind that I learned all the way back in the 1960s when I was serving as a military officer, an air force officer, for five years. And come up with thoughts ‘quagmire’, ‘perpetual war for perpetual peace’, ‘war is the health of the state’, ‘war is a racket’, ‘truth is the first casualty of war’.”
The Congressman also asked Gates and Clinton “Do you endorse the Bush doctrine of “preventive war”, or do you reject it”, prompting the following response from Clinton: “We were attacked from Afghanistan, so even if the doctrine is or is not an appropriate one, it is not applicable to the situation before us.” “We were never attacked by an Afghani.” Paul rebutted.
Watch the Congressman’s comments and questions below:
Clinton seems to have conveniently forgotten that the plan to attack Afghanistan was drawn up before 9/11, so her point about the U.S. being attacked first is completely irrelevant. Even if you believe the official story of 9/11, the plot was carried out by Saudi nationals and planned in Europe, it cannot be used as a valid reason for attacking Afghanistan.
Congressman Paul reiterated his earlier comments in remarks on the House floor, calling the U.S. wars “the rule rather than the exception”, adding “Someday we’re going to have to wake up and look at the type of foreign policy that the founders advised us to have, and that is nonintervention.”
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